September 30, 2004
It's Debatable
Allah has the
master roundup.
One issue no one has raised: who gets the better soundbites. The Bush team is going to win on that, because Kerry said plenty tonight that can be thrown back in his face in terms of substance. (Bush was awkward, but the Kerry people are going to look silly if they just show Bush struggling to think of a phrase.)
But Kerry lived to fight another day.
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I think Kerry gets better soundbites. Most of the news media is curled up at his feet. Bush often times will get a five second clip that they use against him. But its hard to convince people that Bush is no good if you dont let him finish what he was saying in the clip.
Posted by: Emily at October 01, 2004 08:57 AM (dI1NK)
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We all wish Bush had Reagan's rhetorical skills, but he doesn't. And of course the MSM is rooting for Kerry, and there's nothing subtle about it.
But Bush is going to win.
Over at Protein Wisdom, Jeff quotes from a thread (on another site) in which another Bush supporter discusses how his wife reacted to the debate. She's the "apolitical" one in the house. She got bored, of course. And she maintained that Kerry was a better debater, and Bush was not suited to that environment.
But asked about their positions later, she said she didn't really understand Kerry's, and she did understand Bush's.
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Not Quite Live
Green is drunk;
Joyner isn't.
Goldstein is having fun with Photoshop.
Bush and Kerry were both wearing bitchin' suits. And Lehrer did a nice job.
Kerry is more polished, as you might expect. Sometimes it's painful to watch Bush struggle to find a word. But it's more painful to watch Kerry selling his service in Vietnam, particularly in light of the scrutiny he's received for all the things that happened during that time—both in Southeast Asia and here in the States. (And how much rouge was he wearing, anyway?—or is all that color from the infamous fake tan? He managed to negate his height advantage with that.) Bringing that up several times within the same debate is tantamount to hooking.
One of the most dramatic moments was when Lehrer gave Bush the chance to comment on Kerry's character, and he didn't take the bait. Bush is making it clear that he doesn't want to make personal attacks, and he doesn't want this campaign to be about events that took place 30-35 years ago.
There seemed to be a role reversal of sorts going on: Kerry is acting dispassionate, and even tries to smile as the President hammers him. Bush, who often appears to be above the fray, was clearly annoyed as Kerry made his own points. I suspect this was a decision that Bush and his advisors made, and that the intention was to show how engaged his was. To underscore that he's a regular guy.
And, as I've said before, he is now the master of that smirk. He owns it; it doesn't own him like it used to. And he didn't hesitate to play up his real strength, which is the fact that he's doing the job of President now. At every turn he was willing to remind Kerry and everyone else that he's actually doing the work, making the tough choices, and so forth. That it's easy to Monday-morning quarterback the leader of the free world.
The debate was probably a draw, but I don't think it'll change many minds. Most of the people who watch these kinds of things are political junkies to begin with. And there is still the sizzle vs. steak question: what matters at the end of the day is how people will respond to the underlying message. Bush's messages: 1) the President needs to be steady, and not vascillate; 2) we need to stay the course, in Iraq and elsewhere. Kerry's message: George W. Bush has been fucking things up.
What I love though is that we had this debate in the first place. It's essential to Democracy that the President be required to defend his record in this way. And we're alone in doing it in this way, placing our leader on the spot to this degree.
Each guy held his own.
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Didn't I Tell You Guys
. . . not to
pick Kerry? But you didn't listen to Aunt Attila, did you? And it's too late, and there you are crying into your Kool-Aid.
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September 29, 2004
Scott Ott
Points out that Kerry is hangin' out around
The Daily Show,where he can
reach the stoned slackers who form his most natural constituency.
Oh, do let's. Let us rock that vote, shall we? Otherwise it'll be Chimpy and his Halliburton advisors, who will come up with more ways to give blood for oil; see if they don't.
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September 14, 2004
The Tragedy of Omelet, Prince of Massachusetts
Is up over at
Protein Wisdom. I may do a scene for it later, but don't miss out on Jeff's comments section, which contains a few soliliqies from
Omelet that pertain to the situation.
The goal is to finish the entire play, of course. Each blogger does one scene.
Me, I want to do the scene wherein the forest starts moving . . . Oh, wait.
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September 10, 2004
When Johnny Goes Marching Home . . .
WaPo: Among likely voters, 52-43. Some of this could be bounce, of course—but we were supposed to be living in an era wherein bounces were no longer really possible. At least, that's what we were told.
Via James.
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September 09, 2004
Turns Out
. . . the President used to drink, and may even have used drugs, in his youth. I'm shocked, shocked.
For crying out loud: it sounds like everythiing in the Kitty Kelley book is either beating a dead horse (the National Guard business; Dubya and booze/drugs) or is obviously made up (crooked business deals by Laura Bush, suspicious deaths, and the like). Some of it is reminiscent of that stuff Kelley made up about Nancy Reagan.
Even Dubya's former sister-in-law, Sharon Bush, maintains that, no, she didn't confirm this notion that G.W. used to do lines of coke at Camp David. And she's no fan of the Bush family at all.
This is just silly. Any "news outlet" that has this woman on it as a guest is just discredited, in my mind. Go. Dig. Fact-check. If you find something true, then talk to her—but giving her credibility before you've done your research is asinine.
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Today I was listening to Michael Medved for a few minutes at lunch during the psycho hour (he has some real freak callers). This guy called and said that Kitty Kelley's book claims that GWB has been having a long term gay relationship with the former mayor of Knoxville Tennessee that started when they were in their teens. I told my friend - if GWB is gay I know nothing about anything, I've never known anything, everything I ever thought I knew I was wrong about and do not ever believe anything I ever say now or in the future.
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Perfectly Hilarious
Jay at Wizbang!
discusses the virtues in having a President who says funny things, and doesn't take himself too seriously.
Has anyone, by the way, tried to parse out what Bush actually meant when he committed his latest gaffe? I believe that instead of OB-GYNs practicing "their love of women," he meant something like "practice the work they love," and got snarled up as usual. But Jay's right: Kerry's idea of self-deprecating humor is to discuss his hair, and when you reduce those jokes down, they essentially mean, "yes, I do have great hair." There's nothing self-deprecating about it. No humility in this man.
"Isn't it funny that I'm perfect?"
"Well, a) no; and b) you aren't."
Via James.
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We don't expect or want our President to be a stand-up comedian. Bush saying funny things isn't because he's doing it on purpose, it's because without his staff writers and careful instructions on speech-making he repeatedly shows himself as a mediocre - if not outright incompetent - President.
Kerry, at least, can stand up and make an impromptu speech without cue cards, earplugs, or a person behind a curtain.
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The only thing that Kerry has been able to do without cue cards and speech writers is slander the American Soldier.
Posted by: Peter at September 09, 2004 05:07 PM (AaBEz)
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And what a bunch of goofballs he surrounds himself with! John Ashcroft: Wasn't covering the breasts on the statues of the Justice Department a hoot? And that Dennis Hastert: Saying that George Soros be a drug lord because he's in favor of legalization?
Stop it. You're killing me.
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I have no desire to defend that bit of theatre by Ashcroft.
Of course, I'm not sure I see Hastert as part of the Administration, either.
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September 08, 2004
"I Would Do Better in Some Fashion, But I Don't Have Time To Explain Exactly How"
Protein Wisdom
compares and contrasts the various John Kerrys.
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September 07, 2004
The Irish Lass
. . . is starting a
syndicate of chick bloggers who support Bush, especially in light of his dynamite speech last week. If you're a chick, stop by and sign up. If you're a guy, go over and offer moral support. If you aren't a Bush supporter, rethink your position.
Thanks!
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Um, can I offer a little immoral support, instead?
Posted by: Peter at September 07, 2004 10:46 PM (AaBEz)
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[turns head, gives quasi-Victorian look down her nose]
Why, young man. I don't think I understand your drift.
[bursts out laughing]
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 07, 2004 10:53 PM (SuJa4)
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If you aren't a Bush supporter, rethink your position.
Thanks, but no thanks. Turkeys don't vote for Thanksgiving, and I'm not voting for someone who would love to lock me up for what I do for a living.
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Hmmm. That didn't work particularly well. Let's try the URL outside of an a tag:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-te.obscenity06apr06,0,3004361.story?coll=bal-home-headlines
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September 05, 2004
James
has
a thing or two to say about dirty campaigning—and how both sides have been doing it for decades.
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September 03, 2004
Didn't the Republicans
—Bush in particular—keep their mouths shut and the spotlight away from them during the Democratic convention?
That's classy. Too bad Kerry can't bring himself to do that.
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No, the Republicans did not. They had a "Truth Squad" spreading lies all over Boston and the rest of the U.S. during the Democratic convention.
Bad taste and poor class were put all over the airwaves on Wednesday night. In Texas, we call it "showing your ass." Flipflop Miller lied, screamed and threatened to kick the sorry ass of anyone who questioned his lies.
Thanks for the advice, but the Democrats don't need a lecture on public morality from those who are incapable of decency.
Posted by: Max Edison at September 03, 2004 12:05 PM (Syb+r)
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"Incapable of decency." My, my. If half the country is incapable of decency, we are in a kettle of fish.
I also love to hear people scream about "lying" who supported Michael Moore's film, which brought untruth to a whole new level. This may or may not describe you, but it certainly describes many Kerry supporters.
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 03, 2004 12:35 PM (SuJa4)
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The Donks had the same "truth squad" or "rapid response team" in fact McCaulff was quite proud of it and especially the war room when he gave a tour of it to PBS.
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September 02, 2004
I Guess Bush
. . . decided to accept the nomination.
He did a very nice job. He really exceeded expectations with this address.
I didn't happen to mind all the liberal proposals in his domestic policy, because I have such a soft spot in my heart for all that is do-goodism, but it led me to reflect, once more, on how odd it is that Bush is so frequently described as a conservative, or as a conservative extremist. Reagan was a conservative. Bush is just right of center.
It's also worth noting that he's now the master of that infamous smirk, and it doesn't just flash across his face at inappropriate times. Now, when he's delighted with something his eyes light up, and his smiles have extra dimensions to them. I also think he was very effective when he seemed to be on the edge of tears—and that was so much more genuine than the old Clinton-biting-his-lip routine that we've all seen a dozen times or more.
The speech was beautifully written, and stirringly delivered. I simply can't imagine it being any better than it was. Even the protesters were terrific: nice to see the President have to work to keep his thread going. (And, as the husband points out, he may well have had to do this wearing a Kevlar vest, if our buddies in the Secret Service had their way.) And the Secret Service men were wearing baseball hats with their nondescript suits! Because they were in disguise, doncha know.
And the Texas delegates were sooooo cute in their matching outfits with the Lone Star on the breast, waving their ten gallon hats in the air. I swooned.
G.W. can phone in the rest of the campaign if he likes. Tonight he made his case to Middle America ("to the Reagan Democrats," as Rush suggested this morning), and he did it very well.
Sleep well, George. Thanks for making the world a safer place.
UPDATE: Steven Taylor live-blogged it. I was tempted, but had left the laptop upstairs.
UPDATE 2: James Joyner has a roundup of blogger reactions, minus his—since he was out last night and hasn't watched his TiVo yet. (I was wondering what was going on, and figured all the East Coast bloggers were just early-to-bed types.)
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In the Command Post chat last night, the consensus was that conservatism is in the execution, not the goals. The President sees education as a long-term investment in the American economy that yields dividends in direct proportion to how much we invest. Education is the key to shoring up the economy as well as solving practically every social problem we have: crime, drug use, poverty, public health. Investing in public education can certainly be construed as a liberal cause, but the way the President's doing it—through accountability and choice—is pure conservatism.
Et cetera.
Posted by: Jeff Harrell at September 03, 2004 06:25 AM (UAuME)
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Hey, don't blame Rush! He was just hopped up on goofballs. He's been in a constant state of ooby-gooby for years, so cut him some slack!
Posted by: Max Edison at September 03, 2004 12:06 PM (Syb+r)
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He discussed a lot of social programs, some of which sound like they may be expensive. I'm just saying that one side of the couch (me, an Arnold Republican) responded better than the other side of the couch (my husband, a traditional Reagan Republican).
Obviously, I want to do some research on what the actual costs are likely to be, and compare that with the costs of not doing these things.
I'll be especially interested in reading/hearing what Newt has to say, because he maintains that a lot of our ambitions can be met in a cost-effective fashion (particularly once we get healthcare costs under control).
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A Friend
Accuses me of being "in your face" on my blog lately. Hm. It
is an election season, and the stakes are rather high this year. So one is going to hear about this stuff.
Still, I think "in your face" would be to post something like this:
Kerry and Edwards are dead in the water. Bush and Cheney are going to win this thing, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it. The slide has started.
Democracy has a beach head in the Middle East, and within a decade this will mean a more peaceful world. Al Qaeda will be vanquished. In a few decades you'll have the chance of looking back and recognizing that you backed the wrong horse. Or not.
Like Ronald Reagan, Bush is the right guy for the right time, and the future democracies of the Middle East will one day look upon G.W. as Eastern Europeans do Reagan, who destroyed the chokehold socialism had on their countries.
Just so you know what it looks like.
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The Limb I've Been Out On
for months seems to be getting a lot
shorter, all of a sudden.
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Poliblog
. . . gives us some "
bite-sized toast," which is lovely.
But next time could I maybe have some silver-dollar pancakes, please? That would be even better.
With Mrs. Butterworth syrup, if you've got it.
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We'll see what we can do
Posted by: Steven Taylor at September 02, 2004 05:35 AM (TzaXj)
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Mrs. Butterworths? I thought better of you. A pat of butter and some maple syrup. We go to some trouble to find Grade B maple syrup; it has more flavor and isn't quite as sweet.
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In real life, I use only real maple syrup—and unsalted butter—but ever since James Joyner (responding to the Log Cabin Republicans) came up with the Mrs. Butterworth Libertarians, I've been delighted with that and made it part of my identity. I'm a MBL all the way in my political affiliation.
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September 01, 2004
He May Be a Sonofabitch . . .
But—
you know.
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The Swifties Offer a Truce
Check out their letter, reprinted over at
Xrlq's place.
It's an olive branch; wonder what the Kerry people will do with it.
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That's not an olive branch - it's an attempt to get Kerry to agree with their distortions. Worse, the Swifties have launched yet another attack.
Pretty sad group but then that's the Republicans for you. Attack without compromise, morals, or conscience.
Posted by: littlemrmahatma at September 01, 2004 08:25 AM (BZ0tI)
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Yup. Ya gotta love those "Republicans" like John O'Neillwho vote for Hubert Humphrey, Ross Perot (twice) and Al Gore, describe our current Republican President as an "empty suit," and express a view that John Edwards was the best candidate for President in the race.
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They have to be Republicans. They are doing something that some Kerry supporters don't like. Therefore, they are Republicans--all of 'em. Why can't you get that?
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 01, 2004 11:44 PM (SuJa4)
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Sure, it's an olive branch. "Agree with our distortions or we'll continue with more distortions."
If Kerry refuses to sign then he'll appear as not wanting peace, of keeping the ugliness going. If he does sign then he's admitting to the distortions. No win for him either way. Big win for Georgie either way. He says to the Swifties "Bad! Don't do it!" and they (*wink*) ignore him.
Maybe MoveOn should do like the Swifties: Bush - agree that you're an incompetent moron or we'll keep on revealing your inadequacies.
That'd be fair, right?
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Do you, um--do you really believe this stuff you write? Just curious.
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Choose Life . . . Or Something Like It
Karol
discusses the pro-life element at the RNC, and the pro-choicers there as well. And the fact that they weren't always at each other's throats.
Mandatory reading: this will be covered in your final exam.
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