February 16, 2008
So I Was Contemplating What Might Happen To the Economy . . .
if Obama were elected President.
And I passed out.
Of course I won't deny that he'd be the best-looking President we've had in a good long time. Ears notwithstanding, and despite that mole to the right of his nose.
It's just that . . . I don't think the people who would be thrown out of work—or have their civil liberties infringed upon—will be as impressed with the man's looks as we might, um, hope.
UPDATE: Catch that buzz. D.R. Tucker at Human Events remarks that "we might as well start calling him President Obama right now," and posits that wwwe are heading, well, somewhere in a handbasket:
The right may not like it, but any conservative criticism of “Obama-mania” will inevitably be regarded as sour grapes by Obama partisans and the mainstream press (but I repeat myself). After all, some on the right (most notably William Kristol) wanted Colin Powell to run as a Republican in 1996 precisely because they knew he would receive this sort of national adulation as a candidate—national adulation that would have swept Powell and the GOP into the White House, his own left-wing social views notwithstanding.
Had the Iraq War not been so controversial and so demonized, Condi Rice might have received this kind of national worship. If the war had ended with a stable Iraq and very few American casualties, Rice would have been embraced from sea to shining sea as a Presidential candidate. The mainstream mediaÂ’s attacks on Rice would have had no effect whatsoever.
How can the Republicans run against Obama? It wonÂ’t be enough to highlight his far-left voting record. ItÂ’s been a long time since a Democrat lost a Presidential election solely because he was a liberal.
Michael Dukais, Al Gore and John Kerry all had serious moonbat tendencies, but it was their flaws as candidates, not their ideology alone, that ultimately brought about their losses.
Read Tucker's full post. Then get drunk, get up tomorrow sometime, and go back to fighting the good fight. What choice (except in that bogus absolute philosophical sense) do we have?
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Don't worry, President Obama has your back! Since he's the candidate of change, his first order of business will be to put "Take a Penny, Leave a Penny" recycled ash trays at every cash register to ease your pain. The Federal Gov't will keep them filled, I assure you. You won't have to wait for one of those insulting rebate checks! And where would you cash them anyway, once he brings the hammer down on all those predatory lenders who gave low interest loans to people without income, jobs, or credit? Greedy bastards!
It's an ObamaNation! Deal with it!
Posted by: Darrell at February 16, 2008 11:52 AM (fvf6y)
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What's with that road show skit where Hillary keeps on saying that you have to lead on the first day and Obama counters with it's more important to be right on the first day? Once, all right. Twice? Who going to deliver the same softball twice? Did she expect a different outcome? Did the writer's strike effect Hill's campaign too? Couldn't she at least ad-lib "Don't you mean Left?" Or couldn't she say "If you had more experience you'd know I'm always right. Just ask Bill."? Something? Do Barack and Hillary get residuals for their performances? Are they eligible for an Emmy? I have questions.
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February 13, 2008
Yesterday,
Professor Purkinje forwent the "political woodie" he says he would have got from making me wait in the car while he went to vote for Obama in the Maryland primaries.
Instead, he ran around the lab in an Obama T-shirt, singing "Oh, Bama, oh oh Bama, oh oh—lookin' for my Obama."
It's possible that he borrowed the melody for that one from the White Boys who started it all.
(Note: no comments about the good professor here. In a way, I envy anyone having any hope or idealism about politics right now. I wish I could vote for Obama and think it would do any good. Say what you like about Obama—it you put my friend down I will hunt you down and drill you full of holes.)
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This was the democrat plan, one year before the election and all three candidates are democrat, now after eight years in office what was Karl Rove's plan. Let me guess, he failed to plan.
Exit stage left
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Still plenty of time for the Left to pluck defeat from the jaws of victory. I've arranged for Barack to do a little tank driving in May. I've ordered the helmet already. In June, we have a visit to a NASA clean room.
Posted by: Darrell at February 13, 2008 09:58 PM (6lQfi)
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Does it matter Darrell? A Democrat will be elected in either case.
Posted by: Desert Cat at February 14, 2008 06:59 AM (DIr0W)
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My friends are still trying to talk me into voting for the Democrat who cusses more, rather than writing in Virginia Postrel as a protest vote.
Posted by: Attila Girl at February 14, 2008 07:02 AM (vuv+H)
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I too am envious of anyone who feels any sort of inspiration about this election. Good luck to them.
I just hope the Obama supporters are not too disappointed when:
Scenario #1: The Clinton machine uses every dirty trick in the book to screw him out of the nomination.
Scenario #2: If by some miracle, Hillary fails to steal the DEM nomination -- he will certainly beat McCain. Then Obama and all of his hopefully idealistic supporters will quickly learn how cold and cruel the real world can be.
Sadly, the rest of us will share the pain in either event.
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Yup. There's no way out.
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February 11, 2008
I've Been Fox-Lanched!
On an article on Mrs. C.
Apparently, I was considered the voice or reason.
I do not believe my husband was consulted about this implication.
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February 09, 2008
Desert Cat
. . . on our
current electoral predicament:
John McCain gives a speech and everybody starts getting their erections back?
Well. That would be a "no."
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I thought that was Bob Dole's concession speech they were talking about...
Posted by: Chap at February 09, 2008 12:55 PM (c3EPF)
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Reality is the aphrodisiac. If good isn't among your choices, it becomes the least of three evils.
Posted by: Darrell at February 09, 2008 02:10 PM (qQlhT)
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Oh I don't know. Over at Ace's place I noticed a few people brightening a bit after reading it.
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February 07, 2008
And In the End . . .
In the wake of the Romney withdrawal . . . um, suspension . . . there are a lot of depressed-looking people wandering around.
Joyner thinks the GOP still has a chance of winning the election. He also thinks that it'll make a difference, for the obvious reason—the only possible reason: McCain will prosecute the War on Terror for more-than-aesthetic/political reasons. Because the things McCain believes, he actually believes. As opposed to the case with Mrs. C.
I hear that argument a lot. Some of the time I find it seductive. But not today. Today, I simply mourn.
And I don't know what to do: I have a deep sentimental attachment to the Bill of Rights, and I don't think John McCain shares my feelings, there.
More on Saturday, after I infiltrate a group of Johnny Mac's supporters tomorrow to find out why they really like this guy whom I may or may not find marginally acceptable.
As I told Attila the Hub today, I'm done waiting for people to "come to their senses." There has to be work that one can do—beyond blogging—to bring them to their senses.
I talked to Mark Steyn very briefly earlier, and he remarked that the success of the McCain candidacy is "ominous."
I think it is. But there has to be a way to get the word out about some of the issues that are at stake right now, beyond the security issues that get the "airplay."
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Say hello to the Year of the Rat!
Clarence I see now that I have lived a wonderful life. . .I want to go back and vote for Thompson right from the start! Zuzu's petals! MARY!
Did you attend the McCain speech? I was hoping you would get JM to fly off the handle and have to be taken away and sedated. Losing your touch?
Posted by: Darrell at February 07, 2008 08:48 PM (Q3vCq)
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I feared it would backfire, and *I* would be the one whom security would need to, um, "deal with."
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February 05, 2008
Okay. I Voted.
It wasn't as bad as I'd feared. Of course, I took the precaution of shooting up beforehand; that helped.
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Mm. In lieu of smack, I might need one helluva tall margarita watching these results roll in. I am sitting on needles waiting for the first results from AZ to start rolling in. I had *NO IDEA* McCain was in danger of losing his homestate.
I might need to call in sick tomorrow to nurse the hangover that would result from drinking to THAT result.
Posted by: Desert Cat at February 05, 2008 07:39 PM (DIr0W)
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Update-It looks like I'll be in to work tomorrow. Those exit poll results were a chimera.
Posted by: Desert Cat at February 05, 2008 09:25 PM (DIr0W)
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I'm coping by regarding this whole primary process as some sort of alternate universe that I stumbled into by mistake. I'm sure I'm about to go back to the regular one . . .
Posted by: Attila Girl at February 06, 2008 09:05 AM (0Oe7F)
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I voted for Romney. Since Fred was still on the ballot, I had to resist wasting my vote. We now have to go back to the concept of the ironclad party platform. There we can have our principles etched in stone and it won't matter who's signing the papework. Enforcement you ask? Well we do have the technology and Tom Clancy can set it up. All our candidate has to do is sign a release for the implant.
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Listen, Kids.
Until or unless we have some kind of real evidence—something other than horrific allegations—McCain's service in Vietnam is off the table. Off the
fucking table.
I'm not voting for him. But some things are below low.
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Good grief. I can list at least 15 reasons right off the top of my head not to vote for McCain that are based purely on policy disagreements and temperament issues. We don't need to delve into fantasies of Manchurian candidates. Why is it that whenever there is a chance to get press time. these kinds of cockroaches have to come crawling out from under their rocks.
I almost wish it were January 2009...
David (who, since he forgot he was registered Libertarian, will neither get the opportunity to vote for Romney, nor will he be able to exercise the "Coulter Option" and vote for Hillary. Smart move, chucklehead.)
Posted by: David J Harr at February 05, 2008 06:01 AM (pe9c8)
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McCain's service in Vietnam is off the table
Not it isn't.
I'm sure McCain is going to remind you that his years in Vietnam make him uniquely qualified as PotUS, even as he calls out Romney for
not having military service in his resume.
Off the table? if only.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 06, 2008 06:31 AM (1hM1d)
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Vote McCain
. . . Because He Won't Come in Your Mouth.
More here, from your friendly neighborhood "morons."
My favorites?—
ZombieReagan'08—Death is no excuse.
—toby928
and
McCain 08!*
*violation of federal law to have this bumpersticker on your car within 60 days of the election.
—by Sort-of-Mad Max
as well as
KY Jelly '08—You're Gonna Need It!
—eman
and
Tired of settling for the lesser evil? Cthulhu/Nyarlathotep '08.
—BK Willis
Tomorrow's super-duper Tuesday. So off I go to do my duty, joylessly.
Well . . . you know what I mean.
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February 04, 2008
"The Other McCain"
Stacy has a nice clip up of Tammy Bruce making
mincemeat out of Bob Beckel.
I think Tammy may be out of the closet now . . . as a conservative. I know, I know: she didn't leave the Democratic Party. As with so many people before her, it was the Party that moved.
Did I ever tell y'all about the day Tammy bought me breakfast? It was perfectly innocent, I assure you. Unfortunately.
Speaking of Matters Most Superficial: I have mixed emotions about those glasses The Tamster is wearing. I think I may prefer the glamour-doll Tammy over the bespectacled one. But I myself prefer to wear glasses (not that I have beauty to spare . . . I'm probably simply hiding).
And Tammy's glasses do lend a certain nerdy charm. Hard to pick. Fortunately, I'm married, and largely straight . . . so I guess it ain't my call.
With Tammy, of course, it doesn't matter whether or not she telegraphs her intellect in advance: she always wins. And she does it honestly, without resorting to the trick that various media whores (male and female!) employ.
Did I say media whores? I meant, Fourth Estate prostitutes.
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hi attagirl,
i hope you don't mind my taking liberties with your nom-de-plume; "little miss" risks being seen as condescending (worse, sexually condescending), and "attila girl" is just too formal.
did you know that attila is recorded as having died on what was presumably one of his several wedding nights? various conservative sources have it that he died of a nose-bleed and that his new bride was found in the morning cowering in a corner of the bed-chamber.
an intriguing account, albeit relatively modern, has it that attila forced marrage on a young woman named ildico after having killed her father. this account has ildico taking revenge on attila who, presumably, was not too sober after the wedding festivities.
all accounts agree that attila died on his wedding night. assertions and circumstances suggest that he died of a knife wound.
attila was buried on a plain. his horde is said to have marched over his grave to conceal it. to this day we do not know where it is.
returning to the moment:
my first impression of tammy bruce is that she has a good head on her shoulders.
my second impression is that those who she writes for are well served.
i am constantly impressed with the fact that these are amazing times.
this from someone who identifies himself as being so far left he's right.
best regards,
alan m.
ny ny
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Alan M., it would be a capital idea to hit that "PayPal Donate" button (to the left, above) during LMA's fund drive.
All accounts? Only Marcellinus Comes (Count Marcellinus) relates that tale, sixty years after the fact. Priscus of Panium has him dying of natural causes. Emperor Marcian was not on the grassy knoll that, or any other day.
Posted by: Darrell at February 05, 2008 09:03 AM (IaUa0)
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I'll answer to AttaGirl. In fact, I once attended a convention using the "company name" "Attila Girl Enterprises," which someone mistook for "Atta Girl." That works, too.
Thanks for the research on my namesake, boys.
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hello darrell,
i am not a scholar of late western roman times, but i am generally interested. i can find no reference that has priscus saying attila did not die on his wedding night.
can you point me to a source for that?
i should have prefixed my assertion of "all sources" with 'as far as i know', but i was relying on my memory of a brief look into the matter 6 or more years ago and that memory had it 'all sources'. now, looking further, i see the nibelungenlied and the eddas have something to say about how attila died. although centuries within an oral tradition, and of uncertain evolution into writing, i think i clearly have it the nibelungenlied and and the norse eddas all agree that attila was killed by his wife to avenge a death.
the interesting thing to me about those traditions is that they don't rely on the written word of one man, or as in this case, the differing words of two men, in the matter.
the broad dissemination of that death into the hands of at least several masters of oral traditions, entered into those traditions free of the biases of the evolving empire as expressed by two men.
interesting stuff.
elsewhere, i'm sorry... aside from being something of a lower-case sort, i have to ask, what is the fund-drive about?
hello attagirl!
you like the name attagirl! good. so do i. i like serviceable ambiguity.
elsewhere i must say that i know i have a grin on. while she may well have had a man's measure, i don't believe a girl of those times, however strong, would have called (at least one) man a boy without certain protection accompanying the wish to do so.
one could look at you, in what one might think to be a barbarian gentlemanly sort of way, and ask himself 'what is this girl in for?'
what do you think she, without having heard a sound yet aware that that question had been asked, would answer to herself?
best regards to you both,
alan m.
ny ny
Posted by: alan m. at February 06, 2008 12:52 AM (TCGLn)
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I'm not disputing the "dying on his wedding night" part. It's the "...assertions and circumstances suggest that he died of a knife wound" part. And the "after having killed her father" part. The only contemporaneous words associated with Ildico are "that she was reknowned for her beauty." Any additional words would then be motivated to provide, say, a rationale for murder(revenge), rather than a death from natural causes.
In the only contemporaneous description, Attila was found dead with blood around his mouth and nose with no visible wounds("unwounded"). How can we not trust those witnesses who then " as is the custom of that race, they cut off part of their hair and disfigured their faces horribly with deep wounds so that the distinguished warrior might be bewailed, not with feminine lamentations and tears, but with manly blood. "?
"I am always surprised that historians still use the old saw about Attila the Hun dying of a nosebleed. The probability of this being true is extemely unlikely. The MUCH more likely scenario is: 'esophageal varices'. It seems most historians haven't bothered to consult an ER doc or a pathologist.
Attila's death is a CLASSIC scenario for this event: a night of heavy drinking for a chronic heavy drinker. Chronic alcoholism leads to acid reflux disease which culminates eventually in esophageal varices rupturing. This is VERY common, in fact the public doesn't realize it, but this is the number one cause of death for chronic drinkers, NOT liver disease, which is number two.
Essentially we are talking about a hemmorrhoid, only at the bottom of the esophagus instead of the rectum. When they rupture the victim drowns in his own blood, coughing and spitting up blood from mouth and nose. They usually die before getting a transfusion.
I think it is safe to say that Attila was a heavy, chronic drinker; most of the military men (and a helluva lot of other people) were in ancient days. Blood transfusions, of course, were not available."
Tom Utterback,
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/attilathehun/a/AttilaHemorrhoi.htm
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In the "Niebelungenlied"(a Middle High German epic poem written about 1200) Ildico became Kiemhilde and Attila Etzel. One would expect a certain creative license to be taken with the facts in such a poem, true? Not to mention the 747 years. And the events in another famous person's life. One where we would add "PBUH" after every mention.
Since the LMA Blog counts for graduate credit at so many universities, I would suggest adding:
Thompson, E.A., "A History of Attila and the Huns." Greenwood Press; Westport, CT; 1948
Baldwin, B.,"Priscus of Panium,"Byzantion 50(1980)
Muller, C.,"Fragmenta Historicorum Graecorum, Vol. 4(Paris, 1851)
to your reading list.
Broom Hilda was once married to Attila the Hun , I might add. See your local "daily dead tree" media offering.
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I'm not disputing the "dying on his wedding night" part.
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then you missed the period between "... wedding night." and "assertions
and circumstances...".
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It's the "...assertions and circumstances suggest that he died of a
knife wound" part. And the "after having killed her father" part. The
only contemporaneous words associated with Ildico are "that she was
reknowned for her beauty." Any additional words would then be motivated
to provide, say, a rationale for murder(revenge), rather than a death
from natural causes.
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unless i am mistaken then, your position is that there is no reason to
believe ildico caused attila's death, and that attila probably died of
hemorrhage.
i think you are right to dismiss a nose-bleed as the cause of attila's
death, and your suggestion of hemorrhage can conceivably account for the
appearance of a nose-bleed.
with the data available and the time available to piece it together, i
cannot say that i am certain that you are wrong, but i believe that you
are wrong.
2,633,124 people were said to be addicted to alcohol in england in 2003.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2817781.stm
something less than 1,718 persons died of cirrhosis and fibrosis in england
2005.
http://www.britishlivertrust dot org dot uk/home/media-centre/facts-about-liver-disease.aspx
deaths attributable to esophageal varices must be fewer in number than
that due to people of wales being included in the population, as
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Not everyone with cirrhosis has varices
and not everyone with varices will bleed.
http://www.britishlivertrust dot org dot uk/content/search.aspx?pid=280&query=esophageal+varices
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and esophagel varices not caused by cirrhosis are rare:
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The most common cause of esophageal varices is scarring
of the liver. The scarring may be caused by liver disease,
such as cirrhosis. The scarring prevents the normal flow
of blood from the intestines back through the liver. The
blood bypasses the liver, increasing the blood flow into
the veins of the esophagus. As this condition worsens, the
body creates new veins, but these new veins cannot prevent
abnormally high pressures and swelling of the veins. At any
time the veins can break open and cause severe bleeding.
Rarely, esophageal varices are caused by other medical problems.
http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/aha/aha_esophvar_crs.htm
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the number of deaths due to fibrosis and cirrhosis of the liver
in 2005 was 1,718 in a population of 2.6 million or about 1 out
of every 1,513 alcoholics.
unless i've missed something significant, and i don't believe i
have, the odds of 1,513 to 1 against are better than the odds
against attila having died of an esophagel varices hemorrhage.
crediting priscus, the case for variceal hemorage gets worse -
attila practiced personal restraint (an interesting fact that
has one looking again at his reputation):
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A luxurious meal, served on silver plate, had been made
ready for us and the barbarian guests, but Attila ate
nothing but meat on a wooden trencher. In everything else,
too, he showed himself temperate - his cup was of wood,
while to the guests were given goblets of gold and silver.
His dress, too, was quite simple, affecting only to be clean
http://www.fordham dot edu/halsall/source/attila1.html
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no doubt attila drank at his wedding, but the report of his
personal temperance is at odds with excesses leading to
esophageal varices.
the cause of attila's death is uncertain. contrasting credibility,
priscus has no match, and he is said to have said:
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When [attila] had done all these things through the
kindness of fortune, neither by an enemy's wound nor
a friend's treachery but with his nation secure, amid
his pleasures, and in happiness and without sense of
pain he fell. Who then would consider this a death
which no one thinks should be avenged?"
http://www.istrianet.org/istria/history/0000-0999AD/huns-goths/attila-death.htm
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this from a man who is also said to have left us with his fragment 8.
in the presence of even an only somewhat decent gathering of known
detail relating to attila's death, what i understand to be priscus'
last sentence, "Who then would consider this a death which no one
thinks should be avenged?" can give one a deep, deep pause for thought,
and asks answer beyond what i think can reasonably be brought here.
regards,
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So, alan, are you sayng that you are NOT going to hit LMA's tip button?
Where else can you find this much mental stimulation without a 'shroom involved?
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February 01, 2008
A Reply to The Anchoress:
How is blind loyalty to a
party any better than blind loyalty to an ideology? Can't a person make the party an idol just as easily as one can a philosophical leaning?
I'd really like to know.
The only possible advantages I see to McCain over Hillary have to do with (1) national defense; (2) the vague potential of him maybe appointing constructionist judges, and (3) theoretically less damage to the economy.
But once you've taken away free speech, anything can happen. I'm just not excited about the idea of voting for "Mr. Ball Gag." Why should I be? Is this the election that turns on S&M?
The fact is, Ann Coulter—bless her media-whoring little heart—has a freaking point. And the fact that she's expressing it in as exaggerated a manner as usual (yeah—she'll "campaign" for Hillary, all right) does not mean she isn't essentially correct: how do we know McCain is less-bad than Hillary? We're supposed to, um, trust him? Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm considering writing in my mother's dog for President this year, because Mandy would tear the Islamists limb from limb in a methodical, spirited fashion. With her strong, strong teeth. No emotion involved whatsoever: just doing her job.
The fact is, women are more brutal than men in the final analysis. I caught a glimpse of this once when some incompetent pharmacist delayed filling a prescription for my husband, who was recovering from oral surgery. I lowered my voice, explained what she needed to do, and watched her do it. My husband was in the car, and he needed this medicaton. I would have filleted her cheerfully on the spot if the process had taken 20 minutes longer. Nothing personal about it. Not at all.
While McCain's writing his hands about interrogation techniques, and agonizing about how wicked money is, people could very well die.
Talk to me, Johnny Mac. Convince me. 'Cause you sure haven't, so far.
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Ah, once again it looks to boiling down to a question of
voting for the lesser of two weasels.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at February 02, 2008 06:14 AM (1hM1d)
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I'd vote for McCain over Clinton, if it came to that, because of terrorism/military/security considerations. But I very much hope it won't come to that. See my post
John McCain: Victorian or Elizabethan?
Posted by: david foster at February 02, 2008 08:28 AM (ke+yX)
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Hi Attila - just wanted to clarify. I'm not advocating "blind loyalty" to "a party." I am not even a Republican any more. I'm simply posing a question and food for thought...in all the hullaballoo this past week, are we beginning to make our political passions into little gods? That was my point! :-) Best to you!
Posted by: The Anchoress at February 02, 2008 09:12 AM (N0hv7)
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Both Hillary and Barack are Leftists. I will never vote for a Leftist under any circumstances. Why? Because the Left is the sworn enemy of the US and capitalism. They will destroy everything you hold dear. This is not a game or a whim:This is your life!
If you don't want McCain as your candidate, vote for Romney. It really is that simple at this point in the race.
Posted by: Darrell at February 02, 2008 01:41 PM (3p2cq)
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Thank you ma'am. You know my passion for Dr. Nutburger is born of the same sentiment that leads you to agree with the essence of Coulter. Principals freaking matter! Ideology matters. And both take precedence over party.
I have a bad case of IBS from having to swallow W's shit on the domestic front for eight years. I have ZERO patience for calls to vote for the "lesser evil" this time around. And it is very debatable which of the two likely nominees is truly the lesser evil this time.
I will write in Dr. Paul if necessary. I would neither vote for McCain *nor* Clinton, so no one better try telling me I'm voting for Clinton by not voting for McCain. He lost my vote years ago. I vote my conscience this time.
Here's hoping Romney comes back on Super Tuesday.
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