January 25, 2007
Glenn Reminds Us
. . . to
crunch the numbers on alternative fuels.
The point about oil-producing countries is very good: most of them will let the price of crude ease down when they sense that we are getting serious about alternative energy sources for our cars.
Hybrids and biodiesel both sound promising. Ethanol—at least, when it's made of food-grade corn—still makes me uneasy, and I can't quite say why: the idea of turning food into fuel for cars just sounds backward to me.
But anything we can do to bring production of energy inside the States is a beautiful thing.
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Anything we can do to RETURN production of ANYTHING to the States is a beautiful thing.
Posted by: yazoota at January 25, 2007 10:26 AM (xUyci)
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Oh, you Buchananites all sound alike . . .
Posted by: Attila Girl at January 25, 2007 11:57 AM (0CbUL)
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There was a great show about this very thing on the History channel last night, explaing how much fossil feul it takes to produce different types of alternative fuels, and which resources are the MOST environmentally sound.
Interesting that producing ethanol from sugar cane requires 8 times LESS petroleum product than does production of ethanol from corn.
Also, those "plug-in" super hybrids that people have made? Not saving the environment unless the plug is plugged into an alternate energy source, since it takes as much fossil feul to produce the electricity as is saved on the gas, if not more.
Posted by: caltechgirl at January 25, 2007 01:19 PM (/vgMZ)
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So, What countries to batteries come from?
And where do the batteries go when you're done with them?
Just askin', that's all.
-Bob
Posted by: Bob at January 25, 2007 07:43 PM (2tBSJ)
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(1)Battery Park, NYC. NY
(2)Into the waste stream.
Posted by: Darrell at January 25, 2007 09:45 PM (Ddvv8)
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Don't we just dump 'em in Nevada?
Posted by: Attila Girl at January 26, 2007 12:50 AM (0CbUL)
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I find it interesting that the best fuel source being proliferated in every major country in the world which actually does reduce carbon emissions is not being expanded in the USA. Nuclear.
Posted by: Jack at January 27, 2007 08:12 AM (u6fWj)
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There aren't too many financially healthy electric utilities that could pursue the nuclear power option--the Left saw to that by playing rope-a-dope with them in the 70's and 80's. And little things like 'rate freezes" since. Before the "global warming' hoax, the Left stopped nuclear power in the US while fawning over how great those shoddy plants with no containment in the Soviet Union were.The Left covets utilities as State-run enterprises and a source of jobs. If you think you are paying a lot for energy now, just wait until the Left gets their greedy-little hands on the throttle! The escalating rates will be sold as holy sacrifices to the State--encouraging 'sane' allocation to the masses. Your sacrifice will pay for those who can't pay. And how can you argue when you are talking about a necessity?
Electric utilities can't add nuclear plants to the rate base until the plant is up and running. That means the shareholders pay everything until that point. Interest during construction could easily be $1million/day on a plant of that size. So get out your handy calculators and see what a ten-year delay does to the cost of the plant. And did.
No one has yet solved the basic problems of the nuclear fission process where you have a waste stream you have to deal with for 100,000 years. Let's see that presented as 'holy'. Maybe if some of those $billions being spent on the pseudo-science of global warming was applied to nuclear fusion research, there would be a solution.
Posted by: Darrell at January 29, 2007 10:03 AM (I2z+D)
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January 24, 2007
The Also-Rans in the Hybrid Race.
It looks like Saturn
is developing a hybrid, after all: Attila the Hub mentioned this to me, and I assumed he'd somehow gotten it wrong. Because I know everything, you see: surely I would have known
that.
The GM idea of plugging in the car into a regular outlet is intriguing, but it seems to me that feature is only useful if the car can run entirely without gasoline—if the battery can carry the entire load from time to time.
The Business Week article glosses over the fact that Ford got into the hybrid game before GM did, but it makes a good point about how Ford's Escapes and Explorers get better gas mileage than Toyota's comparable vehicles.
Even with gas prices going down, I just don't think people are in the mood to pay a lot for gasoline: it's something the right and the left can largely agree upon these days.
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Developing? yes, I'm sure. You can also purchase a Greenline Vue for about $25K, which is an electric/fuel hybrid, which so far as I know works on the same priciple as the Prius.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at January 24, 2007 06:29 AM (1hM1d)
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The Saturn Greenline Vue (available since late 2006) offers an assist from an electric motor that gives about a 20% bump in fuel economy. The system never lets the (small) electric motor do all the work, unlike other hybrids. This allows Saturn to sell their "hybrid-lite" version for about $2000 more than the standard model versus $3500-$8000 for its competitors.
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The Saturn Greenline Vue (available since late 2006) offers an assist from an electric motor that gives about a 20% bump in fuel economy. The system never lets the (small) electric motor do all the work, unlike other hybrids. This allows Saturn to sell their "hybrid-lite" version for about $2000 more than the standard model versus $3500-$8000 for its competitors
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January 14, 2007
Read This M. Simon Piece
. . . on timetables and
renewable energy.
Thanks.
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"There is no problem that a little fascism won't solve." Ain't that the truth!
We've got fascism for the left's favorite causes and we've got fascism for the right's favorite causes, and so it doesn't matter who wins elections--what we get is more and more fascism (statism actually).
"But...but, OUR fascism is GOOD fascism and theirs is E-evil!"
Right. Someone's been suckered...
Posted by: Desert Cat at January 16, 2007 07:05 AM (xdX36)
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January 03, 2007
Hm. Great Idea.
I love the idea of
exposing Leftist hypocrisy, but I think the contest should be expanded beyond the Bay Area.
Also, I'm not sure about including the Honda Civic in the winner's circle. Thirty MPG may not be outstanding, but it's hardly awful. (Of course, I realize that if we're really waging war for oil, and it's a bad thing to do, these people shouldn't be driving at all. So there's that.)
Via Ace.
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It doesn't matter how well you expose their hypocrisy -- they are completely unable to see it.
It's like trying to explain to a blind man in a black tuxedo
that he's wearing brown shoes.
Arguing facts with a person who is bound by feeling is like
arguing with a fool (and who can tell them apart?).
-B
Posted by: Bob at January 03, 2007 01:28 PM (CP6tB)
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I know there are people out there to whom that applies, but you know what?--I have an awful lot of very smart lefty friends.
Posted by: Attila Girl at January 03, 2007 09:48 PM (zxOEV)
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um, I wouldn't disagree that many lefties are smart. but they still resort to emotional appeals rather than logic. "I feel your pain" ;D
Posted by: maggie katzen at January 03, 2007 10:47 PM (movWU)
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Intelligence in service to emotions is not wisdom, it's
cleverness. That's the same skill drug addicts use to get more
dope. I know some very clever (former) drug addicts.
Cleverness can be used to try to rationalize ANYTHING.
-B
Posted by: Bob at January 04, 2007 07:27 AM (CP6tB)
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Some if it isn't emotion. Some of it has to do with ideals--ideals that I share, but feel are misapplied in a lot of geopolitical situations.
Posted by: Attila Girl at January 04, 2007 11:50 AM (zxOEV)
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