September 09, 2006
I Especially Dig It
. . . when members of my writing groups criticize my punctuation. One woman hates my semicolons, and another doesn't like my colons.
I believe they would like me to write simple, declarative sentences. Subject does verb with predicate. All rather short. And simple. Containing, perhaps, the occasional comma. And a sentence fragment for dramatic effect.
Look for me in South Florida. I'll be writing. Fishing. And hanging out in bars.
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Is this some kind of plan to become the female writer version of Jimmy Buffet?
Posted by: the Pirate at September 09, 2006 12:09 PM (Rg0+S)
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I was trying for Ernest Hemingway, but I'll take what I can get.
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 09, 2006 01:30 PM (kFfrz)
Posted by: k at September 09, 2006 08:31 PM (GIL7z)
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Write a scene where an angry writer brings an Ak-47 to her writers group and "scribbles" colons and semi-colons into her critics' bodies.
That should shut them up.
If it doesn't work offer them tasty brownies laced with arsenic.
P.S. Your experiences have convinced me never to join a writers group.
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at September 09, 2006 11:28 PM (RiZPJ)
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No, no: this is the bad writer's group--not the good writer's group. Also, I'm just a bit sensitive right now, since I'm trying to finish the book. In general, writer's groups rawk.
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 09, 2006 11:47 PM (LEEsJ)
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Just do it once for the looks on the other's faces. It could be priceless if you pull off the deadpan of course.
That could be an idea for a scene, but that's starting to get a little too meta.
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I once tried to publish, here, a fictionalized bit of dialogue from the good writer's group. Unfortunately, I was having problems with MT that night . . .
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 10, 2006 10:49 PM (LEEsJ)
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September 08, 2006
What I Was After in this Book
. . . was a hybrid between Michael Connelly and Jane Austen, with a little Dorothy L. Sayers thrown in.
What I've produced is more like a "Scooby Do: Where Are You" script, crossed with Sleepless in Seattle.
Not the level I wanted, but who cares? All that matters is finishing.
I should make the time to wash the dishes. And blame my problems on other people. But first, maybe I'll have another nap.
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So when can we buy it? :-)
Posted by: mark at September 09, 2006 12:24 AM (KDXI+)
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After it gets sold, edited and published. Realistically, I can't see that happening before the winter of 07-08.
But I should start taking "pre-orders" to help sell it!
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 09, 2006 03:53 AM (LEEsJ)
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Yeah, actually Scooby with Sleepless is probably more marketable than just about anything. Sell the film rights to whats-her-name and retire.
Posted by: Zendo Deb at September 09, 2006 11:42 AM (+gqOq)
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"Destiny is something we've invented because we can't stand the fact that everything that happens is accidental." "What do you care? You drink out of the toilet." "I'm Mary Jane." "Like, that is my favorite name."
Posted by: Darrell at September 09, 2006 07:46 PM (0qTMI)
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This is just FAB news! Can I say *congrats* yet?
Posted by: k at September 09, 2006 08:33 PM (GIL7z)
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Toss in a conspiracy so you can try for the Dan Brown sheep--I mean "fans."
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at September 09, 2006 11:30 PM (RiZPJ)
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September 07, 2006
I Sweat Buckets of Blood, for Hours
. . . and here I have 1000 words. Wowie-kazowie.
Of course, it's all dialogue, which means it goes on for pages and pages. And, naturally, I'm going to get busted in writer's group for writing too much dialogue.
Even after I add the action in around the spoken words, it'll still be "ring around the collar." I've tried soaking it out, and scrubbing it out.
Yet it's enough. Enough for today.
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Pop Quiz!
If my protagonist, while driving a bit crazily—as is her wont—maneuvers around "a slowpoke Latino," is she a racist?
Please advise. Myself, I had trouble keeping a straight face when I was told that the phrase "sounds racist."
I wonder if it would be sexist to introduce a smart blonde female character.
One isn't supposed to notice anyone's physical characteristics, ya know!
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It doesn't make her a racist it makes her a person, everybody has uncharitable thoughts and attitudes from time to time, that kind of spontaneous detail about them is what fleshes them out and makes them real. It's your story, let it tell you who the characters are and if readers want to bother labeling their behavior, so what? And why would it be sexist to have a smart female blonde? My story has a lovely,brainy blonde woman who could take out a platoon armed only with a comb, and a lovely genius brunette maiden of fourteen,a lovely evil witch and a handsome, vicious, pedophile Count. Because that's who my story's about, let people take it as they may.
(Mind you, all this will change the instant somebody offers me money for it and says, "but lose the blonde".) I expect that, like me, your commenters will want to read your novel, not one written by a committee.
Posted by: colinmacdougall at September 07, 2006 08:30 AM (+z5C9)
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Change it to a slowpoke in a '64 BelAir low-rider with a "THE ONLY ILLEGALS ON THIS CONTINENT
ARE THE CRIMINAL EUROPEANS
WHO HAVE INVADED OUR CONTINENT
FROM 1492 TO THE PRESENT DAY" bumper sticker... Problem solved.
Smart blondes go against the stereotype, however misbegotten, so it isn't sexist. Do know that Sharon Stone is going to lobby for the role, though, in the movie version. She has a Mensa tattoo on her ass, you know.
Posted by: Darrell at September 07, 2006 08:39 AM (n1Kcr)
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My point exactly: my stereotype of Latin men is that they drive fast. So if one is a "slowpoke driver" it plays against the stereotype, just as a smart blonde would.
(Actually, my protagonist IS a smart blonde.)
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 07, 2006 10:45 AM (LEEsJ)
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Hmm...around here if I get stuck behind a beat up old pickup truck going 10 mph below the speed limit, almost inevitably it is a middle-aged hispanic male at the wheel.
Posted by: Desert Cat at September 07, 2006 04:21 PM (B2X7i)
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Wetback would of been racist, Latino is not.
As for Desert Cat's comment if you discribed it as a slow poke latino in a pick up truck with gardening equipment in the back, that could be racist.
Posted by: the Pirate at September 07, 2006 09:04 PM (Rg0+S)
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Well, the origin of the remark was the fact that I've been stuck behind gardeners' trucks. They do drive more slowly, because of the equipment.
It doesn't reflect on Latinos; it reflects on my character's impatience.
I mean, does any literary mention of a nonwhite person constitute racism?
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 07, 2006 09:33 PM (LEEsJ)
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I mean, does any literary mention of a nonwhite person constitute racism?
Pardon my french, but that would be stupid. I mean I don't doubt that amongst some people that is the case. But it is outright stupid.
If a person can't make simple observations without being called a racist, then the term has essentially lost all meaning.
Am I ageist if I observe that slow moving, full-size sedans are most frequently piloted by a member of the gray-haired crowd? Or a Luddite for observing that if an SUV is moving erratically in traffic it is almost inevitably piloted by some dope with a cellphone glued to his/her ear?
Nonsense.
I've also noticed that Volvos are quite frequently piloted by guilty white liberals. What does that make me?
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Posted by: Attila Girl at September 09, 2006 03:56 AM (LEEsJ)
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Years back, my eldest daughter's [then] boyfriend had gotten a new car and was taking us for a spin in it. We were cut off by a thoughtless driver and boyfriend muttered
"Stupid Asian driver!"
I looked at him with a bit of shock, "Hisonori! You're Japanese!"
"Puh-leeeeze! You know it's true. Most of us can't drive."
As he called it ... DWA
heh.
Posted by: Darleen at September 09, 2006 03:02 PM (cXz8w)
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Larry Elder likes to talk about how, when he was a waiter in his father's restaurant, he noticed that black females were the worst tippers--followed by black males.
"Sorry!" he exclaims, in a not-very-sorry-sounding tone.
He maintains that the best tippers, overall, were big, hale-and-hearty (sometimes even overweight) white men. "I dunno," he muses. "Maybe they were jolly, or something."
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September 01, 2006
I'm Almost Ready
. . . to wade back into the crime novel. But I don't know whether it sucks tonight. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
Sometimes I write a chapter or scene that's so amazing, the universe nearly hums along to the breathlessly perfect melody of the prose. Then I read it aloud in one of my criticism groups. By then someone's gone into the Word file to add cliches, bad dialogue, and typographical errors.
So it all comes down to this question: Do I feel lucky?
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I know how you feel...Somebody always does the same with my witty comments!
Good luck with your writing!
Posted by: Darrell at September 01, 2006 08:37 PM (+EHSL)
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this sounds like what happened to me at rehearsal tonight. the pianist wasn't there and the cd player was giving the director fits. usually, i sight read pretty well. but tonight the notes coming out of the piano did NOT sound like what i was trying to play. it was weird.
Posted by: maggie katzen at September 01, 2006 11:57 PM (wIQcY)
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Damn. Sounds like your novel is going to have thirty-eleven authors, all listed alphabetically I hope. Royalties paid the same way. Remember, a camel is a horse created by committee. Other than that, I have no opinion. Well, maybe one question: if your "group" is so into participating in the writing of your book, how many have actually been published? If none, consider the source of their commentary.
Posted by: clyde at September 02, 2006 04:53 AM (6m+7s)
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Thanks for your kind words, but I'm a perfectionist, so writing a first draft is bound to be painful for me. And I did do something experimental this week, and was acutely aware that it wasn't completely successful.
Or, like Edison figuring out the light bulb, I've "identified what doesn't work." Better way to look at it, I guess
Posted by: Attila Girl at September 02, 2006 06:25 AM (LEEsJ)
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I sometimes cringe at phrases I've written but keep writing on so as not to get bogged down, I know what I meant and I can come back and tinker when it's time to re-write. I think the greatest danger to the novel we're all eager to read is the distraction perfectionism can create. I've recruited a couple of beta readers myself but I find I'm more productive the less I think in terms of what they'd like. Remember this is all rehearsal, opening night is when you put it in the box and send it off. Best of Luck!
Posted by: Colin MacDougall at September 02, 2006 09:05 AM (+z5C9)
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Better than Edison, be like Michaelangelo. He carved the statue of David by cutting away anything that didn't look like him.
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August 27, 2006
I Need to Engineer
. . . a prison break. Can anyone help me?
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Tattoos or none? Offhand I'd say they'd catch on because of the TV show, but there have been multiple escapes using chili and hot sauce, so maybe not.
Or are you just talking about a little vacation?
BTW, Ann Althouse misspells "chili." So much for perfection...
Posted by: Darrell at August 27, 2006 08:19 PM (IO8gA)
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No, no. I need one for the book. Unless you think I should skip it--because of the TV show.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 27, 2006 08:43 PM (LEEsJ)
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And I thought you made some semi-obscure reference to the plight of women and the patriarchy.
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at August 27, 2006 09:50 PM (RiZPJ)
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"I won't breed in captivity!"
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 28, 2006 08:43 AM (LEEsJ)
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I'd skip it. Prison breaks take up way too much precious time and space to set up correctly and we've seen way too many of them over the years. Frankly, the TV show wasn't all that interesting(or original), either--there was little to watch at the same time--and it all depended on a prison that was built in the 1800's and getting a staff member(the doctor) to cooperate. Real prison breaks are usually mundane things--the result of screw-ups: A dangerous prisoner switching places with someone scheduled for release, or someone walking out of a courtroom or hospital washroom in civilian clothes planted by an accomplice on the outside.
If it's really necessary, tell us more so we can come up with something original.
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August 24, 2006
"Um. About That Sex Scene."
"Yeah?"
"You said he was 'wet.' Didn't you mean 'hard'?"
"No, wet. Precum."
"But precum isn't
sexy," another girl interjects.
"Is too! I love precum."
As usual, we all look to the gay guy. "Well, that's a lot of precum, to get her jeans wet that way." Like Solomon in his wisdom.
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This is like hearing, in detail, about sausage being made.
Posted by: Darrell at August 24, 2006 09:11 AM (a/Tqu)
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I don't know what this is about but I like it.
Is this about a scene in your upcoming (no pun intended) novel?
Posted by: Concho at August 24, 2006 09:24 AM (xUyci)
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Get with the program. Check the archives. You are witnessing history in the making. The next, great, American mystery... Destined to set tongues wagging. Destined to set new standards for book sales. Destined to make people forget about the "zipless fuck" and Erica Jong. Destined to make people think our seductress has incontinence issues...
Posted by: Darrell at August 24, 2006 11:46 AM (vcxcx)
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Hey! It wasn't me. It was my protagonist. Anyway, she was turned on, so that explains that. That and the precum.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 24, 2006 12:04 PM (LEEsJ)
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How about more samples? Please?
Posted by: chuck at August 24, 2006 08:03 PM (Jlaut)
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The seductress in the Great American Mystery, of course! Now simply known as "the protagonist." You are a totally separate entity and matter. And I would never question your continence, or countenance, for that matter.
Posted by: Darrell at August 24, 2006 08:05 PM (uCER6)
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 24, 2006 10:49 PM (LEEsJ)
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Note, that doesn't preclude me from picturing a 30 to 50 foot "anaconda" on the ground you just trod, following one of your "wild girl" nights at a beach front bar in days gone by... And I wouldn't even think of calling a herpetologist...or Ripley's...or the Vatican. But that's a different subject-a need you didn't know you had. And most American guys expect their goddesses to have their flip-flops planted firmly on the ground, anyway.
Posted by: Darrell at August 25, 2006 12:39 PM (iK26Z)
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Wow. That was a rich comment. You're like, the Gertrude Stein of blog commenters. You'll recall, of course, that I'm snake-friendly, but lizard-averse.
And I
did explain that the line about "pissed a tequila-anaconda the full length of the parking lot" was Joni Mitchell, nicht?
And I reserve the right to throw all my footwear at Sean, if the mood strikes me.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 25, 2006 11:17 PM (LEEsJ)
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A snake is a snake is a snake. Except when it's painful cattle:Never a lizard.
And I never confuse you with Joni Mitchell.
Posted by: Darrell at August 26, 2006 08:37 AM (9PAz5)
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Aha! But didn't the snake in the Garden of Eden have legs? That would make it easy to mistake for a lizard, no?
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 26, 2006 11:50 AM (LEEsJ)
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I see you took away all the important points from The Greatest Story Ever Told! I've seen many a girl mistake snakes for lizards and wind up on Jerry Springer or Maury Povich.
Genesis 3:14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.
3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Great tie-in with the cattle and flip-flops! You, Madam, are a genius!
BTW, 'primitive" snakes, such as boas and pythons, still show vestigial pelvic bones and anal spurs that represent the remnants of hind legs. Score another one for the Bible...
We shall not talk about Joseph Smith and the White Salamander.
Posted by: Darrell at August 26, 2006 08:24 PM (IED7e)
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Laurie Anderson also recorded a song--a very sexy one, called "Langue d'Amour"--that mentions a snake with legs. It appears to re-tell the story of the Garden in such a fashion that the girl ends up falling for the snake:
"She was a hothead; she was a woman in love."
http://www.song-teksten.com/song_lyrics/laurie_anderson/mister_heartbreak/langue_d_amour/
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 26, 2006 10:09 PM (LEEsJ)
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A "hotheaded" woman, eh? Is there any other kind?
Few people know this, but America's first draft of its most famous song included the lyrics "I've been through the desert on the snake with no legs.."
Thanks for the song reference! I'll try and find a place to listen to it. "Because when he talked, he make little noises with his tongue, and his long tongue was lightly licking about his lips. Like there was a fire inside his mouth and the flame would come dancing out of his mouth. And this woman liked this very much. " No sexual imagery there!
Addenda: I found a sampler at Barnes and Noble...A spoken word album? It's been a long time! Kind of grows on you though... When I see lyrics, I try and imagine melodies. I couldn't with this one. And I guess, neither could she.
Posted by: Darrell at August 27, 2006 06:35 AM (ZkS/8)
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Give it a listen, though: that track has music. Actually, the album Mister Heartbreak has a lot of music on it--Adrien Belew appears on it, and as I recall so does Peter Gabriel.
Posted by: Attila Girl at August 27, 2006 07:18 AM (LEEsJ)
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I did sample about a dozen cuts and I did hear the music. It is one of the most unusual and interesting albums I've ever come across in a long time. Thanks for pointing it out for me! I'd like to hear it as a studio album, though, instead of "live." Some of the recitations seem forced done live, because she (they) assume characters. And they don't always "hit' the character in the first beat. Or 53rd. I'll wait to find it a little cheaper, though. B&N had it for $45 or so.
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August 02, 2006
Note to Self:
For the high-intensity writing workshop, it won't do to throw the characters into the scene and figure you'll do a re-write on it later. No: actionless characters who are just standing around get
noticed in this crowd. Not in the good way. Enough with the cut-and-paste: only take stuff there after it's been polished to some degree.
(Aw, come on, guys: I can take it. I really can. It won't slow me down. Not to worry, though when you finally read it I hope you'll be a bit gentler than this group was.)
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Miss Attila, there is going to be a press conference on Saturday near Crawford Texas in front of a billboard promoting Condi Rice for President. National Chair Jessie Jane Duff is flying in from DC for the event, along with supporters in Texas and other states.
The President and Secretary Rice will be flying into Texas today, so I wonder what look they will have on their faces as they drive by the billboard. Kind of a "welcome back" message?
You can follow the story at the website, www.4condi.com as well as catching up on the blog news. This is the beauty of technology, you don't have to fly to Texas to cover this event!
Posted by: Donna Jones at August 03, 2006 06:00 AM (Ffvoi)
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Hey, the Condi billboard is up and it looks great. Now I wonder what President Bush and Condi will say as they drive by? What will all those reporters do as they drive by on Highway 84? Hmmm, like maybe report about it?
Autumn is a low news month, so I dare the media to ignore this billboard which is right out in their face. Good job and my hat is off to Americans for Dr. Rice for putting up the sign to greet our president. The current one and the future one.
Posted by: Julie Thompson at August 04, 2006 10:05 AM (TbdcT)
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Ja, Frauline Rice's billboard will remind the masses who to vote for in 2008. Get the big lie going early.
Since Miss Rice has been channeling me, Adolph Hitler to get more advice on how i would have handled the ongoing butchery in Lebanon, it is only REICH that her brownshirts put up a billboard to honor her blood lust.
Ahh, for the good old days, when my Wehrmacht marched all over Europe.
The blood that is being shed in Lebanon is not nearly on par with what was spilled in France or Holland, but it is a good start.
Your girl Condi will make a fine dictator in my mold.
She certainly knows how to tell the big lie: "We don't want a cease-fire until we have a cease-fire that lasts."
Ha-Ha, got a good laugh out of that one. More time for the War Gods to wreak havoc on innocent Lebanese civilians.
Ja, Rice in 2008. You and her make your Fuhrer so happy!!!!
With Love
Adolph
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July 30, 2006
"If You Start Typing, Your Unconscious Will Solve That Problem," He Tells Me.
"It's solving it now," I reply.
"Really? 'Cause it looks like you're just sitting around making yourself miserable."
"By that logic, you aren't working when you go lie down in the middle of the day."
He looks at me. "That's just more of your smart talk."
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Where Are the Servants?
They should be cutting up watermelon for me.
And revising Chapter Two.
And working out that thing in Chapter Six.
And cleaning my kitchen.
One cannot get good help these days . . .
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The servants understand the watermelon isn't good in such heat. They're thinking about your precious pallet.
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at July 30, 2006 11:48 PM (RiZPJ)
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Oh, you and spelling, Sean. Palate.
I sure hope they've got the new murder weapon worked out, since my notion of a blunt instrument is not going to fly.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 31, 2006 12:12 AM (4IuF2)
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I am the real thing! A 100% Magyar descendant of the original "Scourge of God!" Though I try to mitigate my nature with occasional acts of random kindness I find it difficult to give up the old style of thinkingÂ…that is believing that Attila (or his avatars) could be anything but male! Having spent a lifetime educating the "Foreign American Dogs" until I became one, that Attila conquered the known world during 450 AD but gave it all up to be with his 100 hundred wives and concubines, dying on his honeymoon night with a smile on his face! Ambitiously and violently conservative, Attila stuck to the traditional ways of conquering his foes, by overwhelming force and superior leadershipÂ…plus the fact that his countrymen were the best horsemen in the world at the time! This brings me back to "Little Miss Attila", while I have been forced through semi-castration as most adult males have through feminism and "sensitivity training", the last bastion of utter maleness, Attila, seemed to me to be inviolate to the deprecations of this modern curse! Now, though I don't disagree with your comments, I have to relate my ancestor to the possibility of a female role model! Only the future will tell if you follow the true path of Attila and focus on the practical side of his philosophyÂ…whether in love or warÂ…screw 'em all!
Bisztos lehetsz hogy Magyar vagyok!!!
Attila
Posted by: Attila at July 31, 2006 06:12 AM (jeeT4)
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There are several of us on the web who identify with Attila the Hun. I'm the only female in the group, however.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 31, 2006 10:14 AM (4IuF2)
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Really, I was thinking of that big hunk of wood and nails you have in the backyard.
Really!
Really!
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at July 31, 2006 10:52 PM (RiZPJ)
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It's damaged, Sean. Were you thinking of nailing it back together? I hear you're quite the carpenter when you set your mind to it . . .
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July 28, 2006
My Characters
. . . appear very shallow to me right now. It appears that they are showing an inordinate interest in food and sex.
I guess I should try to instill some values in them. But why do I have to do everything?
Oh. Right.
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Angst! That seems to be the key to books and movies these days (though I despise it). Make a character fall in love with his cousin, and then find it morally reprehensible. Or make a girl find some secret trick to capture a guy, and then feel bad about using it, or make someone make tons of money with some scam, and then feel bad about having all that money.
Feeling bad, even when things are good, is the key to writing. Dunno why, and as I implied earlier I'm not a fan of the concept. Can't even watch Battlestar Galactica or read anything by Steven R. Donaldson because of it (and I'm a scifi/fantasy junkie!), but for some reason, angst sells.
Trust me, I'm an expert on these things. I'm published! On blog ger.com at least...
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did you know that you can't make a comment that included blogger dot com in it?
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My spam filter's on a hair-trigger.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 29, 2006 06:52 AM (4IuF2)
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Have your main character fall in love with a grilled cheese sandwich with a slice of tomato and bacon. Oh yeah, then EVERYONE would relate and you would have a million-seller. Guaranteed. Or at least get 10% off your next grilled cheese sandwich at a Waffle House. Of course, this is only pertinent if you have a Waffle House within driving distance. Otherwise, proceed in other directions and hold the pickle.
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July 27, 2006
No, Really.
It's like being in charge of making the vinaigrette when one person at dinner is into the health benefits of olive oil, and another is afraid of the calories, so she wants it to be 90% vinegar. Then the first one accuses you of trying to take the enamel off her teeth.
I'm supposed to develop my characters first, but then everyone wants the body to show up immediately. The advice is all contradictory.
Writing is too hard. I think I need to learn a real trade. I'd make a good truck driver, for instance.
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I hear there's lots of demand for welders.
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at July 28, 2006 01:51 AM (RiZPJ)
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Open with a head in a box. That's always good for a laugh. Notice I didn't mention a grilled cheese sandwich with bacon and tomato in this post.
Posted by: clyde at July 30, 2006 01:20 PM (6m+7s)
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Yes. I was proud of you.
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July 08, 2006
I Just Remembered the Problem.
Writing is hard.
Really hard.
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Editors tell me it is easy. Remember, one day for authors to write, three days for editing and pre-press work.
It gets easy once it starts flowing. But you know that! Here's hoping the dam breaks...
Sure, there are an infinite number of roads, so just pick one and start writing as fast as you can. You can always revise it later. Who knows? You might create some memorable moments that can be used in the second draft or another project.
Good Luck!
Posted by: Darrell at July 08, 2006 08:18 PM (bhhVN)
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Oh, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, birthday girl! Can't wait until your clock chimes--Mass tomorrow and 7 AM comes before I'm ready everytime...
Health, happiness, and lots of easy writing in the coming year!
Posted by: Darrell at July 08, 2006 08:33 PM (bhhVN)
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Actually, what I'm doing now is revising my earlier chapters to conform with the current plot. But it's slow going, and some whole new scenes have to be created.
Ugh.
On the other hand, I'm starting to think this draft ain't half bad. I just went downstairs to tell A. the H. that I'm one of the best writers in the whole world.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 08, 2006 08:33 PM (4IuF2)
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No kidding it's hard. Especially when you think you have something really good to say.
I don't know why we torture ourselves when we could play video games.
Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at July 08, 2006 08:56 PM (RiZPJ)
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"Writing is easy: all you have to do is stare at a blank page and concetrate until blood oozes from your forhead."
Unknown
Posted by: Chuck at July 08, 2006 09:58 PM (R/J3m)
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Just remember every word you're going to write has already been written at least once in the dictionary. It's just a matter of putting them in the right order.
Posted by: clyde at July 09, 2006 04:06 AM (6m+7s)
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It's just a matter of putting them in the right order.
Can I smack Clyde now?? ;-)
Posted by: Darleen at July 09, 2006 11:40 AM (rvX7J)
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Hey, I know whereof I speak. It took TWELVE revisions to get my book to the point the publisher would print it and put it in stores. Lots of moving words around to get the order right.
Of course, by that time, I was sick of the whole thing and never wanted to see it again. Just send me the check. Which, FINALLY, is due in September. I plan to buy a new bathmat, maybe a shower curtain.
Posted by: clyde at July 09, 2006 12:21 PM (6m+7s)
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I have gobs of words. Unfortunately, for what I'm doing I need more than words, characters, and dialogue. I need Actual Plot. And I need physical clues. And I need people to be surprised at the end.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 09, 2006 02:21 PM (4IuF2)
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You're in luck. I am owner and sole employee of the rarely-used PlotsRus, Inc., member FDIC on alternate Thursdays. Below-average plots (the kind seen on Beverly Hills 91210) are 75 cents, decent ones, $1.10, better ones $2.36, and really, really, really good ones $1,200,304. Plus tax. Those, when combined with the appropriate movie stars, directors and advertising and production budgets, usually make people millionaires. Unfortunately, there's no market for these in Hollywood these days, so yesterday I shredded them all and hung up the "gone fishing" sign. I plan to take the rest of the epoch off.
Posted by: clyde at July 09, 2006 02:51 PM (6m+7s)
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Make the killer a character that was just mentioned incidentally in Chapter 1--"The letter carrier said "Good Afternoon, Miss" as he passed on his way to the Sander's Craftsman bungalow." That passes for clever on PBS. The clue was that the letter carrier was pleasant. And enunciated clearly.
Posted by: Darrell at July 09, 2006 07:33 PM (dDfEG)
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Right, Clyde. I know this won't get made. I just want it published--preferably in hardcover.
Thanks, Darrell. But I think I can do a bit better than that
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 09, 2006 08:00 PM (4IuF2)
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NEVER say never. NEVER. I didn't, and after nearly 100 rejections from agents and publishers, I got my first book published. In hardcover. By a real publisher that pays royalties. Everyone you're going to be dealing with has an opinion, and few count. Most can only say NO, while few can say YES, for they haven't the authority. Or the taste or common sense to see something original that hasn't been done before. Like I said before, if agents knew what good writing was, they would be writers. Everyone can be a critic. That's the easy job. Writing something to criticize is a little harder. Keep at it, and let me know when it's in the stores and I will peruse the covers.
Posted by: clyde at July 10, 2006 01:13 AM (6m+7s)
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July 03, 2006
Light Blogging for the Next Few Days
I'm kicking the fiction-writing into high gear, partly due to the fact that I have a novel-writing class that starts on July 12th—and partly due to my very best critic (Attila the Hub) expressing an interest in seeing the manuscript at this point. (He hasn't looked at it in three years.)
"But it sucks," I tell him. "You don't want to read it."
"The sooner you finish it, the sooner you can get rid of it. It's a good thing, to hate your project."
Perhaps. It all depends on whether one wants to creep out from under the rock one lives under. [Insert exoskeletal reference here.]
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I'm thankful that in LMA-speak, light blogging means more posts than the recent norm. Keep 'em coming!
Posted by: Darrell at July 04, 2006 07:21 AM (4YZrP)
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 04, 2006 10:29 AM (4IuF2)
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Paraphrasing a famous saying, "It's better to have finished writing a novel that sucks than never to have finished a novel at all". Besides, look in bookstores. Lots of sucky things get published, thanks to lots of sucky agents and editors. Lots of sucky people out there are easily influenced. Go for it. Let me know when you're rich, and I'll send a bill for this bit of author psychology. Thank you. We appreciate your business.
Posted by: clyde at July 05, 2006 02:57 AM (6m+7s)
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Two words: cat mysteries.
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 05, 2006 03:52 AM (4IuF2)
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June 30, 2006
Well, Now They Know.
The people in Writer's Group seem quite surprised by the solution to my murder mystery, and not 100% dissatisfied, either.
I'm trying to get away from the type of chick-generated puzzle in which the crime was committed either by the sexist, or by the woman who likes to wear fur in public. Or the real estate developer: that's a subtle one.
Now all I have to do is finish this thing and then burn it send it to potential agents/publishers. Piece of cake.
I'll be 44 years old in a week and a half; I've got to get a move on.
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44? Most people that age are dead. I should know, I've been dead 20 years. 21 in November.
Remember one thing: literary agents are nothing but failed writers who like to pass on their failures to others.
Posted by: clyde at July 01, 2006 06:06 AM (6m+7s)
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Very encouraging; thanks
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 01, 2006 06:53 AM (4IuF2)
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BTW, you CAN get a book published without a literary agent, and without having to pay for it yourself. Check out University presses. You get to keep the 15% and your book goes into the same stores. You just have to find a press that prints the kind of stuff you write. I did. My first royalty check is due in September. I plan to buy a new bathmat and maybe a shower curtain.
Posted by: clyde at July 01, 2006 06:58 AM (6m+7s)
Posted by: Attila Girl at July 01, 2006 07:13 AM (4IuF2)
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Baseball at the turn of the century, written in a sort of tongue-in-cheek style. It's the story of my late great uncle who played major league ball between 1911-1919, as a spitball pitcher with the Braves, Cubs and Phillies, and was teammates with the original Cy Young. I included lots of newspaper clips from the era to show what it was like to be alive, play professional baseball, and live in an enormously-changing America. The book is titled "Spitting on Diamonds" and is available at stores near you or on Amazon.com
See? Ask a question, get a commercial.
Posted by: clyde at July 01, 2006 08:06 AM (6m+7s)
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Oh, it was published by the University of Missouri Press.
Posted by: clyde at July 01, 2006 08:07 AM (6m+7s)
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And sometimes literary agents just happen upon your blog and tell you to send your novel. Trust me, you never know who's reading.
Posted by: Joan at July 05, 2006 05:14 PM (wZLWV)
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May 09, 2006
"How Do You Stay So Prolific, Joy?"
I work hard to make sure that 99% of what I write is complete and utter shit.
I'm also capable of whipping up a few pages of dialogue on my lunch hour if writers' group is meeting that night.
Though I shudder to take it in: our teacher always tells me I'm really good at dialogue, and should stop writing so much of it. She's harsh, I tell you.
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These are really good posts.
P.S. You should stop writing so many of them.
Posted by: RightWingDuck at May 10, 2006 08:01 AM (bX+n4)
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Could you give us an example of a conversation between you and your teacher?
Posted by: Averroes at May 10, 2006 05:42 PM (jlOCy)
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Teacher: Reading LMA's paper to herself. "This is a lot better than the crap I write! Sweet Circe, I hate her!" "If she only knew that I was asked to submit some writing samples for a new literary review mag for Albanians with English as their second language, and all I could think of was to write 'Patty was my best friend when I was in third grade. She lived three doors down from me and never leaked in public which was pretty much all I needed in a best friend in those days. Heck I could use a friend like that now.' Pathetic, I know! I didn't even nick it from that Indian babe at Harvard, ot the one that wrote it first. I never read anybody else's stuff. I read the reprint in the PennySaver! Somebody kill me now! Please!
LMA: "So, what'cha think?"
Teacher: "I'd lose all that witty crap(crossing out two-thirds of the text). And the surprise ending, too. Nobody likes surprises."
LMA: "Uh, OK."
Posted by: Darrell at May 11, 2006 07:31 PM (QYAar)
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April 04, 2006
On Cover Letters for Literary Submissions.
My writing teacher sent an e-mail along that contained
this link to an article for
Poets and Writers by C. Michael Curtis. It's thoughtfully written, compassionate, and respectful of the individual writer's sensibilities—along with the massive power inequity between writers and editors. Curtis clearly has a a warm heart, and a deep love for those who produce the written word.
The intent certainly wasn't to make me consider driving off a cliff, but that was the effect, naturally.
I'm coming around to the position that the desire to write is a cancer not yet addressed by medical science. Someone should set up a fucking foundation, you know.
In the meantime, I'm going to take a nap.
(Fear not: I should get my period within a few days. Then I'll be in pain, but a good deal less cranky. The following week I'll be happy and smiling and fun again. Biology may not be destiny, but it certainly affects one's moods.
Besides, with so many options available, no sensible crime writer could ever choose a method that had the right panache. Hence, the napping alternative, which leaves one's future options open, and facilitates that happy smiling fun week that lies just over the rainbow.)
UPDATE: Okay. The package containing that stupid story everyone wants me to send out is ready. I just cranked it out as an exercise some weeks ago, and people keep telling me it's great—even Attila the Hub, who isn't given to hyperbole, likes it. After a while, one ought to trust others' judgement on these matters.
So I feel marginally better. At least I can get started on that average of 19 rejections any given story receives before it's accepted anywhere. (That long horrible one that I really hate—but keep sending 'round because I worked so hard on it—just has a few more rejections to go before I either get it published or give up on it for good.)
I'm no longer toying with suicidal thoughts; I've moved up to homicidal ones, which is my interpretation of mental health.
It's still raining. Hog Beatty called me to recommend anything from Bowie's "Berlin" period for this drizzly day. I left him a message that almost all my Bowie is on vinyl, and I still don't have a turntable. So it's Ziggy Stardust, Changes2, or silence.
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November 17, 2005
I Write About Moral Reprobates
. . . too often. I'm starting to get looks in my writer's group. People blink a lot and gently suggest that I'm starting to lose the readers' sympathies. By which they mean that I've lost theirs.
Hm. I happen to find my monsters lovable as all get out. Second only to Maurice Sendak's.
Everyone's just mad that my characters have more sex than theirs. Hey! Could there be a song in that?
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Frank Miller has lovable monsters, and monsters you can really hate... and they make his stuff into movies.
Posted by: Zendo Deb at November 18, 2005 04:02 AM (S417T)
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I'm still thinking about that queen bee song. A nice song.
Of course, queen bees aren't actual moral reprobates at all...which was the whole point.
Posted by: k at November 18, 2005 04:55 PM (6krEN)
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November 03, 2005
Ye Olde Crime Novel
I took the gauze out of my mouth long enough to read a few pages aloud at Writer's Group tonight. This was one of my "shocker" chapters, and people were . . . well, shocked. That might be good, but if I choose to keep that scene I have to throw in some hints that it might be coming, and consider carefully whether people will be as interested in the character if I continue along this path.
I'd like to keep it, though it definitely gives the tale an even darker turn. But I should consider nuking it. If I do that, I have to figure out how to find a substitute for the final reveal at the end, or whether that's even necessary. If I do my job right, the main plot twist might be enough.
It's been a year and a half, and none of these people has yet articulated what I long to hear: "there, there. That really sucks. You can't write. Why don't you burn this sorry excuse for a manuscript, go home, and take a hot bath? By the way—this isn't your fault. Most likely it's your mother's. Or your husband's. Or perhaps an ex-boyfriend's. Don't worry about it."
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I cannot believe you made it to the group in that condition.
Hah! Maybe you should have tried out the Vamp Do on them, instead of at the coffee shop.
OTOH, sometimes being in that post-surgery altered state of mind and emotion can help you look at things from a whole new angle.
eg, letting you examine and expound on that self-defeatism thing...
I've been sitting around trying to remember if there's anyone I've ever known who didn't have a good dose of that in them. We all seem to do battle with it at some point.
The only ones I could think of who lacked that, people I've personally known I mean, were sociopaths.
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October 21, 2005
Writer's Group Last Night.
They liked my ookey melodramatic backstory, and they think it should go back into the book.
Though I'll have to re-write it in the first person to match the rest of the material. Or, I can re-cast the other parts in third, though semi-hard-boiled American mysteries are usually in first.
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Good for you. Keep at at it.
Posted by: chuck at October 21, 2005 07:43 PM (R/J3m)
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The leader of the group said something last night about problems that "should be fixed in second draft." I was aghast at the idea that there would be a second draft. I kind of imagined that if I just finished the first draft, I could knock off, eat blueberry muffins, and wait for fame and fortune.
Apparently, that's not how it works.
Posted by: Attila Girl at October 21, 2005 11:28 PM (x3SIT)
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Good stories are not written, they are rewritten. The first try always looks awful, sometimes even the second. The sculptor carves a piece of rock because he knows that there is a statue in there somewhere. The same with a writer, there is a good story in there somewhere. So you have to refine it like a piece of metal.
Posted by: Chuck at October 22, 2005 08:13 AM (R/J3m)
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