June 28, 2006
Well, That's Something, Anyway.
I'm over my PMS.
That's the main problem with perimenopause: When I had actual cycles, I could predict the point at which temporary insanity would descend upon me. Now I freak out first, and find out why afterward.
Of course, that just makes me more interesting, colorful, and fun to be around. (Read: a total cunt. That happens to be my own version of the Marabel Morgan approach: a lot less sugar, a lot more spice.)
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June 25, 2006
A Beautiful Morning
It's so pretty right now, and relatively cool. I may actually go for a walk before church.
I woke up early, so I'll probably resort to a nap this afternoon. But at the moment, all is well: the birds are singing in the yard, and living in La Canada is like being at summer camp—all year 'round. Nothing but trees everywhere I look.
And the crows—those noisy beasts—are quiet right now. Still no owls, though. Am I supposed to buy my own? Did the city fail to send me a memo?
Will blog for owls. Or Wols; either way.
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I could send you a few buzzards. They are just like Owls, other than they are huge, ugly, and stink. The same way that the NYT resembles honest media.
(Was that impolite?)
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Yes. But in the good way
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June 20, 2006
And Starbucks, Too!
The dinner crowd started filtering in at Denny's, so I wandered, waif-like, into the night in search of a table with a power outlet nearby.
Actually, I've been considering nuking the T-Mobile HotSpot subscription, but I have to admit that this is nice: hot chai to fend off the overzealous air conditioner, and all the web I need.
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Huzzah for Denny's!
I left work after lunch today so I could avoid L.A.'s nastiest freeway and get out to Redondo Beach early, and am now:
1) enjoying free internet access at the big D, while I
2) eat a grilled ham and cheese sandwich with French fries on the side.
Youngsters, beware; this is what illicit thrills look like when you're 43 years old.
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*snorfl!!!*
i tell my docs my only remaining vice is when I drink a leaded Coke. Being really really REALLY BAAAAAADD.
Posted by: k at June 20, 2006 07:11 PM (wZLWV)
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Ooooooo! The kind of girls moms warn boys about!
Posted by: Darrell at June 20, 2006 07:58 PM (xY3Zb)
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"There are some girls who will order something that contains plenty of fat as the entree, and still get French fries with it. But they aren't our kind of people."
"Don't hang around with the kind of girl who drinks caffeinated beverages after 2:00 in the afternoon; it'll only lead to trouble."
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And how many hours did it take for the grilled ham & cheese to arrive? Denny's has a reputation of being
glacially slow, and in my experience, deservedly so.
If that's your idea of
illicit, well, ummm...
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 21, 2006 04:48 AM (1hM1d)
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Panera Bread - the food is better, the coffee refills are free, and the wireless is also free.
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The day is coming when the availability of free wi-fi at an eating establishment will be overshadowed by the quality of the food.
Posted by: Alan Kellogg at June 21, 2006 04:59 PM (7ukrv)
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I R A Darth Aggie, sometimes we ladies like to enjoy a good thing in a very slow fashion.
Posted by: k at June 21, 2006 06:34 PM (wZLWV)
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assuming that illicit thrill is a good one, of course.
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And most of those involve eating...
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June 18, 2006
Local Murder.
This year we're hearing and seeing a lot of crows. This might be okay, except that I haven't heard any owls in a while, and if the crow populations have gone up because we don't have enough owls in the neighborhood, we will be plagued soon by bunnies eating our grass.
When that happens, we have to step in to protect, quite literally, our turf.
The only creature that really bothers me is the homo sapiens: there have been far too many of those in the past few years.
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I don't think it is the amount of people it is how the people here act toward each other and the world.
Posted by: Rachel Ann at June 18, 2006 08:58 PM (KClFA)
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Said like a "HU-maahn" ...
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Oooh, Cool.
The site's back up. Hope you missed me. Absence, after all, makes something-or-other thingamajig.
I'm home, and happy, but after yesterday—volunteer work all morning, then housework and cooking all evening—I'm home, eating lotos flowers and surfing the web.
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Yes I missed you. I went into a full panic. But you're back. :-)
Posted by: Chuck at June 18, 2006 07:44 PM (R/J3m)
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I missed you too. was it another attack on mu.nu?
Posted by: maggie katzen at June 18, 2006 07:46 PM (rVzXG)
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Since you never do anything unintentionally, is "lotos flowers' a brand of lotus flowers? Is this a reference to Lord Tennyson? Are you moving to England?
Posted by: Darrell Sala at June 18, 2006 07:54 PM (p9fyC)
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Well, MuNu was down, and I assumed it was another attack, since some of my compatriots have been baiting the Islamofascists. There's some pressure to move from mu.nu to another server, but if I do I'll reverse the cash flow: as things stand, money is coming in rather than going out. Which seems, you know, like a better business model than the other way around, even for the online equivalent of a lemonade stand. And someday I'll buy Pixy a diamond ring or something, and we'll be square.
Yup, Darrell: Tennyson. I knew someone would get it.
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June 17, 2006
I May Be the Cleverest Woman in the World.
"What is this?" my father asked.
"It's boysenberry pancake syrup from Knott's Berry Farm," I told him.
"I'm supposed to put this on the fish?" He seemed startled.
"Just fucking do it," I responded. "And forget what I said it was."
Sure enough, he loved it. "I'd never before thought of treating salmon
as if it were pancakes," he told me. But I'd known that if I heated
that stuff up on the stove and poured it in a gravy boat, it would be
good on fish—which if course I don't even eat.
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Posted by: k at June 18, 2006 05:36 AM (y6n8O)
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You gave him a choice by not putting it on in the kitchen? What a good daughter you are! Your tableside manner could use a little work, though...Of course by now, if you didn't say it like that, it might put too much stress on his sytem. You wouldn't want to do that.
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The Sun Also Rises.
My lime tree has recovered from its acute case of not-being-watered (from a few depressions ago), and it's a lovely day.
I'm up early, and headed out to Culver City to hang with my DA homies for a few hours (Regional Group Board Meetings and whatnot), and then I'm back to make the house slightly less messy before my father and stepmother show up for a nice dinner of grilled lamb and salmon.
Life could definitely be worse.
In other words, sometimes the blessings are so numerous they start counting themselves.
Excelsior.
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June 13, 2006
Yes. We Ordered the Prius.
It should be here in September or so. In the meantime, we're planning on winning a Mercedes for Attila the Hub at our church fundraiser, and then I'm going to win Adam Carolla's Toyota Corolla in early July.
So we'll be okay, car-wise, for a few years. Until my mother decides that we all have to be driving hybrids, right this very minute!
I know what you're thinking. But we're way luckier than average: it's not as far-fetched as you imagine that we'll win two cars within three weeks.
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I guess I'll just keep the Saturn Sky that I'm going to win then :-) ...It's a convertible. With leather seats. It would be perfect for your living room or den.
Posted by: Darrell at June 13, 2006 09:43 PM (bEp7v)
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I need a back seat though . . .
Posted by: Attila Girl at June 13, 2006 10:03 PM (4IuF2)
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I need a back seat though . . .
Aren't you and Attila the Hub past that stage?
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 14, 2006 07:44 AM (1hM1d)
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Oh, that's right! I forgot! You need a place to set your book bag. And your daily gin purchases. And a few extra pairs of those size 5s--in case your mood varies! :-) Maybe you can pen a really good letter to those folks at "Pimp Your Ride" and they can "engineer" a stretch for you. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt the lines of that car or drive the designer to suicide or anything like that! Maybe they can add a gun safe or two for your ordnance while they're at it? Or a rifle sheath or scabbard like they had on those old Range Rovers in African safari trim....
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Oh, I forgot! A place to set your backpack. And those daily gin purchases. And a few extra pairs of size 5s in case your mood changes. :-) Maybe you can write a really interesting letter to those folks at "Pimp Your Ride" and have them "engineer" a stretch version for you? And maybe add a gun safe or two for your ordnance? And maybe a rifle sheath or scabbard like they had on those Range Rovers in African safari trim...I'm pretty sure it wouldn't drive the designer to suicide or anything like that! GM is pretty cognizant these days about women's "needs!"
Posted by: Darrell at June 14, 2006 08:28 AM (8gtuV)
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Your damn system!
But it does show you I took the time to input the crap again! From scratch!
Posted by: Darrell at June 14, 2006 08:30 AM (8gtuV)
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Hey--for a small woman, I take up a lot of space.
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June 11, 2006
Car Dealers
. . . can be real pigeons.
My mom wants to buy a Prius. We've had fun watching the bait-and-switch games, and the prices/interest rates that change, kaleidescope-like.
Tomorrow we'll get together to discuss options and then head to the dealership that hasn't been lying to her. If they can continue to tell the truth and feed us Actual Information, we'll ink the deal.
Never go to one of these places without a writing pad and a pen.
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Is this a Toyota dealership, or are you getting it used somewhere else? My own limited experience with Toyota dealerships is that they are order-takers more than salesmen, and I'd think this would be doubly true of the Prius.
Posted by: david foster at June 11, 2006 04:32 PM (/Z304)
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Why don't you try a few of those Web services that promise to find you the lowest price? You can consider it research for your readers and it's free! Examples--edmunds.com, dealers compete you win, etc. You can find them in one place at http://www.epinions.com/2006_Toyota_Prius/display_~latest_prices
You already did the legwork to compare with how they do...
Posted by: Darrell at June 11, 2006 07:48 PM (AMTNn)
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Not in this particular case. One would think it would be so, but this particular dealership sells only high-end Prii, out of a lot in a "rich" neighborhood, so there probably is a higher profit margin per car.
Yup. Toyota dealerships. I think any of these places can get corrupted; we used to have good experiences at Saturn dealers. Then it stopped.
Posted by: Attila Girl at June 11, 2006 07:52 PM (4IuF2)
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car dealers make my skin crawl.
Posted by: caltechgirl at June 12, 2006 09:06 AM (/vgMZ)
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Obviously, my answer above is to David Foster.
Darrell, I do have a note in to the people at Why Pay Sticker, but in this particular case I want the deal done in a way that my mother will find satisfying. As it is, we're having to put up with the issue of waiting a few months before the car she wants will show up, and I think she'll find it reassuring to deal with a human being at an actual lot.
One can only deal so much with a car like a Prius with which the demand is so high, and I'm afraid she'll find an internet-driven experience to be too abstract.
Posted by: Attila Girl at June 12, 2006 09:13 AM (4IuF2)
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It was just for research purposes. To see if they are worth the effort to type the data in their forms. Those sites require a name, phone number, and address--as you know. If by some miracle they did offer you a price WAY below the best you were given, it might be worth something to investigate.
Posted by: Darrell at June 12, 2006 08:58 PM (/IcAH)
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That's really a great news. I'm looking forward to some more information on it.
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June 01, 2006
I'd Forgotten
. . . how much fun it is to sit around in 90-degree weather with a pillow on one's lap to protect one's knees from a hot computer.
I could turn on the AC, sure. But I'm far too noble and virtuous to do that until we hit 100.
I swear: this summer I'm going to work on one of the balconies. The downstairs one, I think. It's cooler.
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Remember: less clothing is better. Not only does it make Attila the Hub happier, it drives the Islamist wackos nuts.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at June 03, 2006 07:40 AM (1hM1d)
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My hubby would agree with I R A ...
Just that #4 is now home from college for two months ... Don't want to scare her into therapy
;-)
Posted by: Darleen at June 03, 2006 08:39 AM (rvX7J)
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We hit 100 degrees today, so I went downstairs to hubby's turf to nap in the media room where it's cooler. We should move in there for the next few months.
Alternatively, we could sleep in a tent in our backyard.
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May 25, 2006
There Is No Life Challenge
. . . that cannot be faced when one is fortified on a regular basis by fresh berries, topped with a little creme fraiche.
(I'll add the accents to creme fraiche if someone will give me the html; I'm busy printing out fiction; I'm going to let them have an important reveal tonight, and I'm shakin' in my boots. More later.)
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May 21, 2006
My Husband Tells Me
. . . that I stop at horse crossings, but only slow down for stop signs.
I've explained that I can tell when there's another vehicle at a stop sign, and when there is not. But a stop sign in and of itself is very unlikely to jump out into the street in front of my car, causing a collision.
Whereas large mammals (horses, deer, humans) will do that every now and again.
He appears unconvinced. Which leads me to believe the Sheriff's deputies will likewise be a bit skeptical, should any of them observe my unorthodox approach . . .
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It must me nice to live in a neighborhood that actually has horse crossings. Where I live the only wildlife that ever crosses the road are squirrels.
Posted by: jake at May 21, 2006 03:28 PM (Kw+ET)
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It is nice. We're very lucky.
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Whereas large mammals (horses, deer, humans) will do that every now and again.
I'm curious if the
humans category includes those driving massive weapons of destruction? maybe I've just gotten used to the notion that the other drivers are a bunch of
freakin' lunatics hell-bent on killing or being killed, but I've caught myself completely overlooking on-coming traffic and barely avoiding disaster.
YMMV, of course...
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May 16, 2006
So . . .
We can call it a SoCal snow day. I've caught up on sleep. I dealt with a few of my volunteer commitments, and housework . . . um, no. Shall I watch TV? I'm not walking downstairs unless someone tells me it's going to be worth my while. Is there a new
Boston Legal on?
Or shall I just finish re-reading America's Secret War?
I only listen to you, my readers, on these matters. I used to have an id, but I traded it away for a package of crackers.
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May 14, 2006
Sleep Till Noon.
And screw 'em all.
UPDATE: Okay. Slow crowd tonight. Need a hint?
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The Clinton Administration in seven words?
Posted by: Darrell at May 14, 2006 07:52 PM (fTM2L)
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You'll have to sleep for a week after all that fun.
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Perhaps I don't quite understand where you're taking my metaphor, Mr. Hackbarth.
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Reading one, writing the other?
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February 15, 2006
"Now, When You Talk About Your De-Cluttering Lady,"
Prof. Purkinje asks me, "is that the same as your life coach?"
"Of course not," I tell him. "I mean, wouldn't it be weird to have my life coach helping me clear a room out?"
"You know, whenever I mention that I have a friend in L.A. with a life coach, they say something about California . . ."
"Let it go," I respond. "People are narrow that way."
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It makes sense, people have advisors for money, health, etc. But it is embarrassing.
Posted by: beautifulatrocities at February 15, 2006 02:59 PM (2pC39)
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So is "life coach" supposed to sound better than "counselor"? I honestly don't mind saying I have a counselor, but I'd feel awkward calling him my "life coach".
Posted by: Desert Cat at February 15, 2006 04:34 PM (B2X7i)
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In my day we used to call them "shrinks".
Posted by: Daniel at February 15, 2006 06:17 PM (GIhW0)
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Um.
Okay. The cloistered life of the accidental hermit, all that. Still, I'm sure I ought to be embarrassed every time I ask one of these hideously naive questions.
But I never am.
It must be the height of Uncool. So, since I'm never embarrassed about it, I apologize in advance if I go around embarrassing YOU.
But what the hell is a Life Coach?
Is this a person who coaches one on How to Live?
Posted by: k at February 15, 2006 11:11 PM (Ffvoi)
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Mostly we get together and discuss my goals in terms of getting my book finished/published. She's kind of the page-count sheriff.
Posted by: Attila Girl at February 15, 2006 11:23 PM (XbEp3)
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EEEEEKKK!!!
I don't like those doings, myself. Page-count sheriff types tend to have the opposite effect as intended - I find it highly demotivating.
Oh, yes, to each her own!
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January 19, 2006
Little Miss Attila
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Eating with Mr. Linguistics
. . . can be interesting. Once in a while we'll be at a place that actually serves booze. So as I drink wine, I can watch him consuming vodka. He will keep up with me, even if I have a second glass of wine. I don't mean that he has a shot of vodka for each glass I drink. I mean that he can literally stay the course,
ounce for ounce. Without slurring his words at the end of the meal. I mean, he's built like a football player, but it's still interesting to behold.
The last time it happened I remarked on it: that for each glass of wine I consumed, he'd had the equivalent amount of hard liquor.
"Oh, yes," he conceded. "But then, I'm much bigger than you are."
True enough. I saw a gleam in his eyes, however. The barest sort of enigmatic look. I read it as "you have no idea what I'm thinking about. It might be vodka, but it could even be something like sex." It was that amused, aloof look males like to assume.
And I know him better than anyone. He was thinking about vodka.
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December 22, 2005
Is This a Great Country, or What?
Here's yet another
thing I've never heard of before, and yet somehow "need." Topless sandals.
You know: so I won't have those unattractive tan lines from my existing flip-flops.
(Via Lair.)
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But now we can't call them "thongs" and get a cheap giggle any more. Lame.
Posted by: Jeff Harrell at December 22, 2005 11:47 AM (QPe2p)
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When I was a little girl, my mother used to call them "go aheads," because they would go ahead of one's feet sometimes.
Posted by: Attila Girl at December 22, 2005 12:47 PM (zZMVu)
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I've always been prud of my Chaco tan.
Posted by: the Pirate at December 22, 2005 03:01 PM (0ZKi5)
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whoa, LMA, you get those flip-flop tan lines too?! All my foot pics show them.
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December 12, 2005
Feverish in Waikiki
Yes. Attila the Hub finished the
Honolulu Marathon yesterday, raising thousands of dollars for cancer research. I cheered him on at mile 5, and near mile 25—along the final incline below Diamond Head.
Based on his projected time of arrival, I had a few hours to kill in that second location, so I ate breakfast (Starbucks coffee, string cheese, cut-up papaya from the local ABC mart). Then I joined with a couple of the locals in cheering the runners up the hill. We clapped and clapped as thousands of people ran, walked, and limped by, and because I'm rather stupid I didn't stop yelling even after it became clear that I was losing my voice. I was having too good a time with my bilingual friends, who taught me how to cheer the runners on in Japanese. (No. I don't remember the phrase I yelled out hundreds of times, exhorting the Japanese to "keep going," because I have a mind like a sieve. However, I'm told I got the pronunciation better than a lot of round-eyes do.)
And when Attila Hub came up the hill I jogged alongside him, even though I was wearing tennis shoes—not running gear. I even tried to sprint to the finish line, though I didn't make it, of course: he was running downhill by then, and he's a good deal taller and fitter than I am. No matter: his sister cheered him over the finish line, quickly repositioning herself after offering some encouragement at the 21-mile mark.
I didn't realize that supporters have to dress as though they are themselves running: wear the proper shoes, for one thing. And train a bit. I guess that means a minimum of four 20-minute workouts during the week, when I'll be cheering, clapping, and jumping up and down. Then there will be a "long cheer" on Sunday afternoons, wherein I'll hold a sign, act excited, and yell for two hours straight. This will take place in my backyard, of course, and ensure that the neighbors continue to give us a wide berth.
Walking along the course early yesterday morning, I passed by the finish line, so I got to see some of the top-50 finishers—those who managed to complete the event in the first few hours. They all looked svelte and young. Whassup with that?
Now I have some sort of vicious mini-bug, so Attila the Hub is sightseeing around the island with his sister while I cough in our hotel room, read a little Richard Miniter, and doze.
No matter. There's a beautiful view from the balcony, and my fever seems to have gone down. In a while I'll go out again and walk by the water. It's safe here: it just doesn't get cold like it does at home. Being sick in paradise is better than being depressed at home.
There is that lovely moment when you know you're getting better, but still need to take it easy. And avoid coughing very wetly on other people.
Sightseeing tomorrow, if I'm up to it and the cough eases up.
Congratulations, Honey.
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it just doesn't get cold like it does at home.
See? Tol'ya! Enjoy!
Posted by: Desert Cat at December 12, 2005 08:12 PM (xdX36)
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Congratulations from sunny Florida on picking a nice warm place to have a cold! I always knew you were sensible.
And John did it. Boy oh boy. That is great.
Posted by: k at December 12, 2005 08:29 PM (M7kiy)
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Glad to hear from k. I was beginning to worry not hearing from that insurance adjuster or k for so many days!
LMA, go ahead and pretend to be sick so that we will feel sorry for you in paradise! Yeah. I'll forget about the foot of snow I've been shoveling!
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I rode the bus back from the finish line with AH and the other finishers. The humidity here—and the grade—led to a lot of collapses, but fortunately none were serious and none occurred within the charity AH was running for.
There weren't two seats together, so I talked to the finisher I found myself sitting with. He was from Omaha, and he told me his friends back home probably wouldn't want to hear about the heat and how it affected his marathon time.
My brain won't work: I'm completely off-kilter. Feels like a drug trip, actually. Not that I'd know.
Posted by: Attila Girl at December 12, 2005 10:17 PM (Japql)
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Hi Darrell!
I'M still here.
http://ksquest.blogspot.com/2005/12/insurance-adjustor.html
http://ksquest.blogspot.com/2005/12/not-hide-nor-hair.html
Posted by: k at December 13, 2005 04:56 AM (6krEN)
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Congrats to Hub! I'm in awe since I found I'm fairly...er...
allergic to running.
;-)
Sorry to hear 'bout the cough, but heck, sick with a view?
Take care and I hope the bug is shortlived.
Posted by: Darleen at December 13, 2005 07:45 AM (FgfaV)
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Would the Japanese happen to have been "Gambatte!"?
David
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That looks right: it was Gam-bah-tay, with the G pronounced really hard, almost like a K sound. But there were tones in it, of course, that I can't spell phonetically.
And that final syllable was right between an "ay" sound and an "eye" sound.
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Posted by: caltechgirl at December 13, 2005 10:44 AM (/vgMZ)
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The amusing thing is that, even 20 years after learning Japanese and living in Japan, I find myself occasionally trying to tell someone "Gambatte!", because there is absolutely no good English translation for it. I guess that means that you have really immersed yourself in the language...
David
Posted by: David Harr at December 13, 2005 01:22 PM (C/3FW)
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I ran the Honolulu Marathon in 1987 and thought the humidity would kill me. There were points that year when it felt like you were running in soup.
Posted by: Matt at December 13, 2005 03:15 PM (N9CSD)
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Well! that's because you ARE.
Thick, hot, enveloping, cozy soup.
People who say the dryness of desert air doesn't make it feel any cooler at the same temp. just don't get it.
That humidity wraps you up and snuggles you tight like a warm blanket.
Posted by: k at December 13, 2005 05:34 PM (6krEN)
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k,
I wonder if that insurance adjuster felt that way when you had him tied up in the shed?
Oh, the humanity!
Posted by: Darrell at December 13, 2005 09:10 PM (AoD1i)
Posted by: Attila Girl at December 13, 2005 11:41 PM (Japql)
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Shed?
What shed?
Hurricane ate the shed.
AAAALLLLLLLL gone...
Posted by: k at December 14, 2005 03:31 AM (6krEN)
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I find an imaginary shed even more traumatic...LMA, you're right...Oh the humidity!
Posted by: Darrell at December 14, 2005 12:31 PM (bDU5V)
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