March 17, 2008
Great Start, Buddy.
You've got
six more deadly sins to go; please get back to us in a timely fashion.
—The MSM and The Blogosphere
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So does this mean that New York Democrats will get 80% of the vote next time around?
Posted by: BillyHW at March 18, 2008 04:05 AM (FhMJq)
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Not a partisan issue; I just think it's hilarious that politicians are now expected (by some) to publicly disclose their sins to that degree.
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 18, 2008 09:02 AM (Hgnbj)
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Yeah. What Is It With These Freakin' Northeastern States?
I mean,
really.
It isn't like my governor . . . . Oh, shit. Never mind.
Carry on.
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Of Course, If We're Not Careful,
people are going to start
mixing up the McGreevy and Spitzer scandals. Which would lead to some who are only sort-of paying attention to believe that Spitzer is gay.
And that McGreevy was the worst hypocrite on planet Earth.
And that Mrs. Spitzer had three-way sex with her husband and "Kristen."
And that Mrs. McGreevy really didn't know her husband was seeing prostitutes.
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March 16, 2008
The Right Kind of Three-Way . . .
How much time did I spend, in my twenties, trying to get it out of my boyfriend why it wasn't gay for us both to hop into bed with another woman, but it would be if we got into bed with another guy?
"If there are two men in the same bed, it's gay," he told me. "End of story."
Thank goodness Governor McGreevy didn't see it that way. Oh, wait . . .
Via Insty, who's downright tabloid-ey lately. Oh, wait . . .
P.S. Did you see the pix? Bunk.
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And New Jersey still voted Democrat.
Posted by: BillyHW at March 16, 2008 09:23 PM (FhMJq)
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- Your b/f's contentions were manifestly silly. Manage can run the table in preferences, depending on how many cards of the same suit, and which doors swing in how many directions.
- I, of course, am only repeating what I've read, and have not a shred of first hand knowledge on the subject..........?........really.......well its true!
- Good day to you Miss!
Posted by: Big Bang Hunter at March 17, 2008 04:33 AM (k9TnY)
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Little Miss Attila:
Your rather self-absorbed boyfriend meant it wouldn't be gay FOR HIM to be in bed with two women.
Best regards;
Posted by: Ruy Diaz at March 17, 2008 04:37 AM (ffrsX)
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I don't know about other guys' problem with MFM three-ways, but my problem with them is the fact that our reproductive organs are both protruberant and delicate. The rest of the man is markedly less so, and real life sex (as with real life violence) is far more confusing and complicated than any carefully choreographed scene you ever see on TV or in the movies.
What you end up with is either a very careful but boring sexual tryst, or at least one set of mashed nads. You milage may, of course, vary.
Posted by: Tatterdemalian at March 17, 2008 04:55 AM (j8zCH)
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Because we don't like to share our women, but we want as many of them as possible.
Gay is just an excuse for the above.
Posted by: seguin at March 17, 2008 07:44 AM (NXtju)
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Oh, please.
Everyone knows that women aren't "gay", they're "lesbian". That's why it's "gay and lesbian association."
So two women together can't be "gay". :-)
Posted by: Greg at March 17, 2008 10:23 AM (tyA9D)
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......let alone the fact that a dude seeing another dude's ballsack from astern would surely require years of therapy, or a well-lit twig thrust into the cornea just so. Unless of course, the seer was, well, you know, gay.
Posted by: alppuccino at March 17, 2008 11:00 AM (YknXf)
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Well yeah, your boyfriend was right, that's just the way it is. Just as there's really no such thing as a male bisexual (he's gay); or a man who's bi-curious (he's gay), or a guy who "experiments" in college (totally gay).
And whereas randy girls these days will often snog with each other at a party or on the dance floor to impress the guys, you'll note that MEN most certainly don't do this (unless they're gay).
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Posted by: Attila Girl at March 17, 2008 11:47 AM (Hgnbj)
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Latest research - men are hardwired AC or DC, women aren't (it's social conditioning). Therefore men are either straight or gay, but women are inately bisexual.
That explains it all.
Posted by: bud at March 17, 2008 12:20 PM (nv1SZ)
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Am I the only hetersexual male in the world who is turned off by the concept of trying to satisfy two women at once?
And girl-on-girl action doesn't do anything for me either.
Posted by: Lev at March 17, 2008 12:24 PM (0suEp)
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"And girl-on-girl action doesn't do anything for me either."
Definite sign you may be gay.
Posted by: JD at March 17, 2008 12:38 PM (SJqd2)
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Lev: There's one other guy like that. My high school sweetheart was bothered by lesbianism. He sort of had this fear that it would affect the . . . supply line.
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 17, 2008 01:03 PM (Hgnbj)
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I bet I've done two men and a woman 3-ways 40 to 50 times in my life, and I never, never, never touched or kissed a man, let alone had sex with one. Never wanted to, never talked about it, never considered it. In fact, the idea makes me want to puke.
But, there were instances wherein a woman wouldn't "do" me or a buddy alone, but was delighted to have us both, and that was fine by me. And I've found that the fantasy was common and intense in a significant number of women. I was happy to be a part of that fantasy. I don't give a damn about seeing some guy naked (hell, I've spent half my life in gyms), but sending some babe up a wall has always had a powerful appeal for me.
Posted by: Kevin at March 17, 2008 02:24 PM (ihRHS)
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Well, Kev--according to some men, if you care about the woman's pleasure, that's gay, too.
I assume that this apparent paradox is hashed out somewhere in the world's locker rooms . . .
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 17, 2008 02:43 PM (Hgnbj)
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A man's boner should be between him and his woman/women. Another dude seeing your boner is gay.
Posted by: alppuccino at March 17, 2008 05:04 PM (BYezr)
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Well, Kev--according to some men, if you care about the woman's pleasure, that's gay, too.
Uh oh...
Posted by: Desert Cat at March 17, 2008 05:13 PM (B2X7i)
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 17, 2008 07:14 PM (Hgnbj)
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What do you call a man and two women? Menage a trois.
What do you call two men and a woman? Gang bang.
Gay gang bang. It's gay for a naked man to be in bed with another naked man, no matter who else is present, UNLESS:
the bed is very, very large (large enough so that the men rarely even glimpse each other), located in the Playboy Mansion, and has many, many women on it.
Posted by: jb at March 17, 2008 09:30 PM (HrVHr)
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P.S. It's gay for two women too.
Good gay.
Posted by: jb at March 17, 2008 09:30 PM (HrVHr)
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Have you noticed how much your traffic (at least as measured by comments) has increased since you stirred the pot last week?
There's a lesson in here somewhere...
Posted by: Desert Cat at March 17, 2008 09:47 PM (DIr0W)
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Yeah. It seems to be something like "get in the gutter and stay there; you'll end up there anyway."
Actually, I think my little mini-blogwar on gender and bodybuilding is incidental to today's traffic, which is of course due to the Instalanche--and subsequent links at Protein Wisdom, Ann Althouse, and Ace of Spades.
A cynical person remark that "there's no such thing as bad publicity." I myself, however, am not a cynic--only a skeptic.
So I'll reserve judgement
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 17, 2008 10:17 PM (Hgnbj)
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Swordfighting bad. Donut-bumping good.
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Belle Sees the Good in McCain.
That's the first step toward
healing!
She's right. Earmark reform is fundamental. It's always easy to imagine that it can be put off, or that "at least our guys aren't as abusive as the Dems" (which isn't true—both parties are horrible about this).
Check your legislators' records on this; Belle links to the list.
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Well the more we learn about the Dem choices, the harder it is going to be to ignore the imperative to prevent their election, despite the bastard on the Repub ticket.
It will come down to how close the race is in my state on Election Day.
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March 14, 2008
The House
. . . is
voting on the FISA bill today; it doesn't look good, even after last night's sooper-secrud session.
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March 13, 2008
Look. If He Was Involved in a Scandal That Had a Sexual Component to It,
then he
must be a Republican. Maybe he just didn't know it. Like, he was a closet Republican or something. I mean, you have to come out to yourself before you can come out to the rest of the world.
Right?
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My all-time MSM favorite spin was labeling Gary Condit as a Conservative every time they mentioned his name regarding the Chandra Levy disappearance/murder--despite the fact that he was a Dem and had a 30% conservative rating based on his voting record by c-groups. As an aside, the "arch-conservative", Bob Dole, had something like a 40-something percent liberal rating according to the liberal groups.
Posted by: Darrell at March 13, 2008 03:37 PM (ZqshW)
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Wrong, wrong, wrong! It was a HETERO sex scandal. We Republicans only have gay sex scandals, remember?
RG
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RG, have you been circulating those pix of you and me at CPAC again? If I've told you once, I've told you a MILLION TIMES . . .
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Waxing Poetic
. . . on the
Spitzer scandal.
(So far, there are takeoffs on T.S. Eliot, S.T. Coleridge, and Lewis Carroll. Join the fun!)
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Random Line from Planes, Trains, and Automobiles:
"You're going the
wrong way! You're going the
wrong way!"
To which John Candy replies, "how do they know which way we're going? They must be drunk."
Steve Martin: "Yeah; how would they know?"
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March 11, 2008
Radar on the Spitzer Scandal
More insight from
Heidi Fleiss:
"It's so easy not to get caught," reformed Hollywood madam Heidi Fleiss tells Radar, adding that she provided service to many a well-known politician [in] her day. "I saw many famous people—more famous than Eliot Spitzer—and you know what, you pay people right, you treat them right, you don't have a problem." The devil, she says, was in Spitzer's particular freak, which left the gals who are alleged to have serviced him describing the governor as "difficult," with demands that involved "things that, like, you might not think were safe."
"I'm sure he wanted anal sex without condoms," Fleiss says, speculating but strangely confident.
There are worse things, of course. If you're not a hooker. (Hint: tiny women shouldn't date men who are hung like firehoses. Moderation in all things, or you end up with sore ovaries.)
But if Spitzer was as "difficult" in the bedroom as he was in his political life, I'm sure he made just as many enemies in the one realm as in the other. To be fair, however, it was his handling of the financial arrangements that led to his undoing.
Via Dan Collins Karl at Protein Wisdom.
UPDATE: Error fixed; I don't know why I got the Protein Wisdom guys mixed up—maybe because those people all look the same to me.
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"I'm sure he wanted anal sex without condoms," Fleiss says, speculating but strangely confident."
Yes. But I hope he really did insist she put a condom on the strap-on. You never know where it's been.
Posted by: Darrell at March 11, 2008 07:45 PM (H79FJ)
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mullah cimoc say aemriki him society so destroy. this to punish for the cruel.
but some the important question usa control media never to speaking:
1. $4000 for it prositute? This the too much money. Even NY governor not to making that much for spending $4000. This meaning the cash payoff. Somebody paying the cash to this man for buy prostitute and maybe othr thing too. For sure him wife to notice if gone $4000 so often. This mean the corruption.
2. Remember him New Jersey governor to homosexual and gay with israeli agent? Am true? Whthim name the Golam?
3. This the so common way for spying to control it call honey bucket to trap the fly. And the pimp him the israeli? In waziristan this man be kill fast the stone and burn the poison moneyof the filth.
USA media so control and make lie for usa people. Him usa man only want sex pill and refrigerator new. Him soul to lost. Him wife lesbian, daughter slut take LBT (low back tattoo) son the gay with the fingernail. This so ashame for all ameriki people.
Posted by: mullah cimoc at March 11, 2008 08:08 PM (Inj0E)
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Thanks, Attila Girl, but that one was Karl.
Posted by: Dan Collins at March 12, 2008 03:40 AM (eNTGR)
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Hint: tiny women shouldn't date men who are hung like firehoses. Moderation in all things, or you end up with sore ovaries.
And you know this...
how? or is this a reflection upon AtHub?
*boggle*
Ok, maybe I don't want to know.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 12, 2008 07:06 AM (1hM1d)
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daughter slut take LBT (low back tattoo)
Dude, you want to speak to Americans, you gotta use the language properly.
It isn't a
low back tattoo, it's a
tramp stamp.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie at March 12, 2008 07:07 AM (1hM1d)
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Aw, shit, Dan--thought I was being careful about that.
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 12, 2008 01:39 PM (hr1i5)
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I'm looking forward to finding out what gets his freak on. Bet it's creepy freaky. Must be something really bad......the whorehouse made him put down extra money.
Posted by: Sam10 at March 13, 2008 04:04 PM (UBNo1)
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Aggie, please. I'm only saying that if there were a guy who were a sort of . . . freak of nature . . . and if there were a petite girl in the room, they would have to be mindful of which
positions they . . . got into.
If the girl has
no control whatsoever as to how deep the man goes, it can be excruciating.
Posted by: Attila Girl at March 13, 2008 07:36 PM (hr1i5)
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Not a problem for "5-inches of fun" Spitzer. Or Kristin(also Kristen).
I paid my internet tax bill, Elliot. I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did. I picked up that monicker on the very same internet, ironically. I hope it's as accurate as your assessment.
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I Keep Feeling
. . . like there's a really good
White Album joke to be made about the Spitzer situation, if I could only think of it.
No—not that White Album. That White Album.
Via Hackbarth.
(The Beatles! Whatever happened to them? They were so hittable before they became 50% dead.)
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Yeah, but don't you have to play the song backwards to hear truth to power? (Paul IS the walrus, you know.)
Revolution 9
(John Lennon, Paul McCartney)
Lead Vocals: John Lennon, Yoko Ono and George Harrison
[Bottle of Claret for you if I had realised...
Well, do it next time.
I forgot about it, George, I'm sorry.
Will you forgive me?
Yes.]
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number...
...then there's this Welsh Rarebit wearing some brown underpants
...about the shortage of grain in Hertfordshire
Everyone of them knew that as time went by they'd get a little bit older and a litter slower but...
It's all the same thing, in this case manufactured by someone who's always/umpteen ...
Your father's giving it diddly-i-dee/district was leaving...
Intended to die ... Ottoman
...long gone through...
I've got (FLUFFY)to say, irritably and...
...floors, hard enough to put on ... per day's MD in our district
There was not really enough light to get down
And ultimately ... slumped down
Suddenly...
They may stop the funding...
Place your bets
The original
Afraid she'll die ...
Great colours for the season
Number 9, number 9
Who's to know?
Who was to know?
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9
I sustained nothing worse than ...
Also, for example
Whatever you're doing
A business deal falls through
I informed him on the third night, when fortune gives...
People ride, people ride
Ride, ride, ride, ride, ride
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Ride! Ride!
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
...I've missed all of that
It makes me a few days late
Compared with, like, wow!
And weird stuff like that...
...taking our sides sometimes
...floral bark
Rouge doctors have brought this specimen
I have nobody's short-cuts, aha...
9, number 9
...with the situation
They are standing still
The plan, the telegram...
Number 9, number...
A man without terrors from beard to false
As the headmaster reported to my son
He really can try, as they do, to find function...
Tell what he was saying, and his voice was low and his hive high
And his eyes were low...
Alright!
It was on fire and his glasses were the same
This thing knows if it was tinted
But you know it isn't
To me it is...
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9
So the wife called me and we'd better go to see a surgeon to price it ...
Yellow underclothes
So, any road, we went to see the dentist instead
Who gave her a pair of teeth which wasn't any good at all
So I said I'd marry, join the fucking navy and went to sea
In my broken chair, my wings are broken and so is my hair
I'm not in the mood for whirling
How? Dogs for dogging, hands for clapping
Birds for birding and fish for fishing
Them for themming and when for whimming
...only to find the night-watchman unaware of his
presence in the building
Number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9, number 9
Number 9
Industry allows financial imbalance
Thrusting it between his shoulder blades
The Watusi, the twist
Eldorado
Take this, brother, may it serve you well
Maybe it's nothing
What? What? Oh...
Maybe, even then, impervious in London
...could be difficult thing...
It's quick like rush for peace is because it's so much
Like being naked
It's alright, it's alright
It's alright, it's alright
It's alright, it's alright
It's alright, it's alright
It's alright
If, you became naked
Posted by: Darrell at March 11, 2008 07:14 PM (H79FJ)
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Depending, of course, on one's proclivities
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"Eliot Mess"
Bidinotto on the
weird myopia of the media; and their refusal to see the Spitzer scandal as being about more than sex.
He thought he was an Untouchable; but then, that is the way of those consumed by lust.
Lust for power, that is.
Yup.
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More on "Selective Prosecution" in the Spitzer Case . . .
Both
Karl and Dan Collins of Protein Wisdom had fun with
Harper's's
Horton, and his cries of selective prosecution.
Karl:
The law on “structuring" . . . would not be at all obscure to a bank, which was obligated to report suspicious activity to the IRS. Moreover, once this information was reported by ABC News, anyone can Google “structuring” and find it immediately. The feds were not on a politically-motivated fishing expedition—they got a report from a bank of suspicious activity requiring investigation.
Dan Collins explains that not only did the entire thing start with a tip from a bank, but (as he ironically notes): "so anxious was the DOJ to prosecute the guy that theyÂ’ve been driving the US Attorney bonkers," trying to get a signoff on an indictment of a public official.
Selective enforcement always scares me. But I'm not convinced that Spitzer was targeted because he was a Democrat; it seems more like his own arrogance and foolhardiness unraveled his career.
It's as if he were a rather disconnected version of William Jefferson Clinton—without, of course, Clinton's brilliance.
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Deposit and withdraw amounts from your bank just under the trigger limit (say $999
. and bad things might happen to you. That's why I stick to $89 or so. That and the fact that I don't see many $9998 checks.
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Puttin' on the Spitz
The
Wall Street Journal had a nice
recap of the Spitzer scandal today:
Mr. Spitzer's recklessness with the state's highest elected office, though, is of a piece with his consistent excesses as Attorney General from 1999 to 2006.
He routinely used the extraordinary threat of indicting entire firms, a financial death sentence, to force the dismissal of executives, such as AIG's Maurice "Hank" Greenberg. He routinely leaked to the press emails obtained with subpoena power to build public animosity against companies and executives. In the case of Mr. Greenberg, he went on national television to accuse the AIG founder of "illegal" behavior. Within the confines of the law itself, though, he never indicted Mr. Greenberg. Nor did he apologize.
In perhaps the incident most suggestive of Mr. Spitzer's lack of self-restraint, the then-Attorney General personally threatened John Whitehead after the former Goldman Sachs chief published an article on this page defending Mr. Greenberg. "I will be coming after you," Mr. Spitzer said, according to Mr. Whitehead's account. "You will pay the price. This is only the beginning, and you will pay dearly for what you have done."
Jack Welch, the former head of GE, said he was told to tell Ken Langone -- embroiled in Mr. Spitzer's investigation of former NYSE chairman Dick Grasso -- that the AG would "put a spike through Langone's heart." New York Congresswoman Sue Kelly, who clashed with Mr. Spitzer in 2003, had her office put out a statement that "the attorney general acted like a thug."
These are not merely acts of routine political rough-and-tumble. They were threats—some rhetorical, some acted upon—by one man with virtually unchecked legal powers.
Eliot Spitzer's self-destructive inability to recognize any limit on his compulsions was never more evident than his staff's enlistment of the New York State Police in a campaign to discredit the state's Senate Majority Leader, Joseph Bruno. On any level, it was nuts. Somehow, Team Spitzer thought they could get by with it. In the wake of that abusive fiasco, his public approval rating plunged.
Mr. Spitzer's dramatic fall yesterday began in the early afternoon with a posting on the Web site of the New York Times about the alleged link to prostitutes. The details in the criminal complaint about "Client-9," who is reported to be Mr. Spitzer, will now be played for titters by the press corps. But one may ask: Where were the media before this? With a few exceptions, the media were happy to prosper from his leaks and even applaud, rather than temper, the manifestly abusive instincts of a public official.
There really is nothing very satisfying about the rough justice being meted out to Eliot Spitzer. He came to embody a system that revels in the entertainment value of roguish figures who rise to power by destroying the careers of others, many of them innocent. Better still, when the targets are as presumably unsympathetic as Wall Street bankers and brokers.
Acts of crime deserve prosecution by the state. The people, in turn, deserve prosecutors and officials who understand the difference between the needs of the public good and the needs of unrestrained personalities who are given the honor of high office.
Read the whole thing.
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Jaime Weinman
. . .
immortalizes the Spitzer scandal:
(Tune: "Love Potion # 9")
I took my troubles to the Emperor's Club,
For understanding and a special rub.
They gave me a form and a questionnaire to sign,
And told me that my title was "Love Client # 9."
I said to Kristen: "I'm a fool for love,
And incidentally, I am not the gov.
I don't like corruption, except, of course, for mine,
And honey, please address me as 'Love Client # 9.'"
More at the link!
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Spitz-Takes
I don't necessarily think the Spitzer prosecution was politically motivated; this is a sociopath's just desserts. But I am curious about Scott Horton's assertion in
Harper's that the charges against Spitzer fall under the heading of "white slavery"; isn't that term often used to designate prostitution itself? The fact is, any law that's subject to selective enforcement should be reviewed—that is indeed, one of the problems with prostitution laws in the first place.
A governor of a powerful state, however, cannot be engaging in activity that opens him up to blackmail, and any elected official who doesn't recognize limits to his power is undermining democracy itself—no shit. Spitzer was, from all accounts, a tyrant of the kind that brings out the long knives —no mater what political party he or she belongs to. And thank goodness for those long knives, also known as "checks and balances."
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