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May 31, 2006

No Alzheimer's, but the Same Exploitation.

According to the New York Post, one of Michael Moore's many victims has finally filed a lawsuit because of the way an interview with him in the hospital was taken out of context for Fahrenheit 9/11.

Good for him. I seem to recall him appearing in Michael Wilson's Michael Moore Hates America to protest the way his voice and image were exploited by the Lyingest Lefty of Them All.

Via Night Rider.

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"Forget That I'm Fifty, 'Cause You Just Got Paid."

Robert C. Balling, Jr. makes Al Gore his bitch.

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May 30, 2006

True or False

The average brilliant person is a total idiot in one arena or another.

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Don't Knock Yourself Out.

Circa 1982, my friend EB came up with a list of kitchen items that Only Need To Be Rinsed. Such as:

• the coffee maker; and

• the garlic press.

To which I'd add:

• the cast-iron frying pans;

• the outdoor grill; and

• that bowl that holds the fresh fruit on the counter.

What else?

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1 Microwave oven interiors(assuming no 'accidents'.) All non-stick pans(assuming no 'accidents" and if your not concerned with aesthetics, like how the bottom of the pan looks.) Tea kettles. All should be sterilized during normal use. Oh. I should add the coffee cup of someone you're pissed at...

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 09:32 PM (Aa60R)

2 I've been told that every die-hard tea drinker has one formerly white mug that's turned a dark shade of brown from years of staining/abuse. Me, I rotate tea mugs and then bleach several of them at a time. So the only one that turns dark brown is generally the one at my workplace: the problem mug. The skeleton in my vocational closet.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 09:49 PM (4IuF2)

3 when i had a "work mug" i rarely even rinsed it out, i figure alternating between coffee and water was enough.

Posted by: maggie katzen at May 30, 2006 10:07 PM (rVzXG)

4 I would do that if I drank pure tea or pure coffee--but I put milk in black tea, and half and half in coffee. Anything with dairy in it get rinsed and then wiped out. I may be a slattern, but I'm not trailer trash. Oh, wait: I am trailer trash. Never mind.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 10:57 PM (4IuF2)

5 My feet.

Posted by: bubba at May 31, 2006 05:27 AM (dlcvE)

6 Beer & Wine Glasses. Yes rinse only on Cast Iron, nothing like when someone ruins my dutch oven by using soap! Oh don't forget to season it with some oil aferwards (no aresol, that ruind another one of my dutch ovens).

Posted by: the Pirate at May 31, 2006 07:22 AM (0ZKi5)

7 slattern A woman sluttishly negligent in her dress. Definition taken from The 1811 Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, originally by Francis Grose. Today's word of the day. I know someone who could update that dictionary. Just think how that would look on your cv!

Posted by: Darrell at May 31, 2006 11:06 AM (ZTcKG)

8 Darrell: There's also the meaning of "sloppy." Some use it as a synonym for "slut," but I don't hold with that. Sloppy and slutty are completely different qualities. Pirate: If someone uses soap, just season it again. I used vegetable oil for years, until I realized Crisco works much better.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 31, 2006 11:56 AM (4IuF2)

9 Go ahead and assume the worst of me! I meant 'slut' in the older, non-sexual sense. 1639, "a rude, ill-bred woman," probably related to Low Ger. Slattje, Du. slodder, dialectal Sw. slata "slut" (in the older, non-sexual sense). Cf. dial. Eng. verb slatter "to spill or splash awkwardly, to waste," used of women or girls considered untidy or slovenly. http://www.etymxxxxxx.xxx/index.php?term=slattern X= o n l i n e . c o m

Posted by: Darrell at May 31, 2006 07:35 PM (HLkMX)

10 Mmmm...Crisco. Flakey pie crust goodness.

Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at May 31, 2006 09:11 PM (RiZPJ)

11 One can also use butter, provided one keeps it chilled especially well and doesn't overwork it (as with all pie crust). I learned this from my lifetime in a dairy-producing state . . . I once made pie crust out of vegetable oil. It can be done, but it's a complete pain. I'd rather do it right and just eat less.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 31, 2006 09:28 PM (4IuF2)

12 Just out of curiosity - What about lard?

Posted by: k at June 02, 2006 02:58 AM (wZLWV)

13 Lard will give you a flaky crust that still is flexible. It will also impart a slightly bitter taste. But that is perfect for those meat pies. Combining fats--butter, Crisco, and lard will work wonders. That is often the 'secret' for those prize winners. Fun fact: 99% of LMA readers have an unnatural fascination with pies.

Posted by: Darrell at June 02, 2006 07:42 AM (sEh88)

14 I would add that the plastic thingie you put stuff in to rinse off, probably only has to be rinsed off.

Posted by: Barry at June 04, 2006 06:43 AM (kKjaJ)

15 The colandar? It gets rinsed if I had produce in it. If I rinsed pasta in it, I'm likely to wash the starch out of its insides.

Posted by: Attila Girl at June 04, 2006 02:26 PM (4IuF2)

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So, My Glasses Are Finally Fixed.

They got broken while I was working for The Stepfather and his Stepford Wife. The computer screen was set up at the back of my desk, so the focal point was out past the range of my reading glasses. I don't have bifocals, so I had to keep switching back and forth between my driving and reading glasses. Off, on. Off, on.

Finally one of the screws gave way on my reading glasses while I was reviewing proofs on the July issue. I read all the finals for August without them, fighting headaches all the way. My reward? No time off to get the things fixed. Then I got fired.

O how I miss that job.

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1 I cried whn I read your piece! It's like the "Trials of Job" for my generation! I'll do my best to get you a national holiday, someday! Or at least The Congressional Medal of Freedom! Now, barring fixing my glasses(which I probably would have done), I might have turned my desk around so that I was sitting at the back, rotated the monitor, and created a little shelf for my keyboard. Or simply detached the monitor from its mooring and moved it forward, adding a little bracket to stabilize the thing(think the back of a picture frame). Heck, in California, you could have claimed multiple chemical sensitivity disorder and had them construct you a hypoallergenic satellite office with an appropriate monitor. Or taunted them with the Americans With Diability Act(I'm sure presbyopia qualifies!). The bottom line is, I know you loved your job and I'm sure you did it extremely well. You just needed to be free for your real dream job, truth be told. It's coming! You can mourn for a little bit, though. And take care of those health issues, while you're at it...

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 07:40 PM (Aa60R)

2 My tummy is much better. I think it was stress + middle age. But I will have all the usual tests run, of course.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 08:32 PM (4IuF2)

3 Good to hear!

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 09:15 PM (Aa60R)

4 ...But go right ahead and assume that the prayers had nothing to do with it. Don't fret, I'll tell St. Catherine of Alexandria, St. Symphorosa, and the rest that you had no idea. I can't afford to get anyone miffed, if you know what I mean!

Posted by: Darrell at May 31, 2006 11:00 AM (ZTcKG)

5 Um...Someday will you regale us with the actual Firing Words used at this place? We need a good fix of Instant Outrage On LMA's Account from time to time. Ya know. Adrenaline rush, all that. It's good for us.

Posted by: k at May 31, 2006 11:41 AM (Ffvoi)

6 K: It would be pretty funny to share a few excerpts. I'll think about it. Darrell: that's downright sweet. And I had no idea you were Catholic (or is it Orthodox?).

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 31, 2006 11:59 AM (4IuF2)

7 It's Catholic. And thanks a lot! That sounds like something that could be used against me on Judgment Day!(So you lived your life so that no one knew you were a Catholic?) I see you don't remember your "I'm a half-assed Catholic..." posting. Or your commenter's. They're just part of my special 'posse' for stomach ailments. Specialists, actually. Before you scoff, how's your health plan?

Posted by: Darrell at May 31, 2006 07:44 PM (HLkMX)

8 I can't keep the biographical info straight on all my readers. I just recall that they're 90% engineers . . .

Actually, I like to tell people that I converted to Catholicism because I found out about St. Anthony. Any faith that has a guy dedicated to helping people find lost things has a leg up on all other religions, if you want to know the truth. I'd rather have saints on my sides than doctors, but I'll take both, thankyouverymuch.

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May 29, 2006

It Was Bound to Happen.

I found an error in the book about punctuation. I may cry. The only thing that keeps me going is the hope that the text somehow had to be re-entered for the American edition (or perhaps for paperback), and the British version is actually pure, without blemish.

Eats, Shoots, and Leaves. Now with a typo. Lynne Truss has betrayed my trust.

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1 What's the general rule-of-thumb in publishing? Three errors or less, and it's considered perfect? Or you can feel soiled. And dirty. And get naked and shower. It's up to you.

Posted by: Darrell at May 29, 2006 07:54 PM (WNfaX)

2 Sure; go ahead and make light of the agony professional proofreaders go through every day . . .

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 29, 2006 09:24 PM (4IuF2)

3 I really want to split a participle and watch the reaction.

Posted by: Sean Hackbarth at May 30, 2006 08:15 AM (RiZPJ)

4 Actually, according to this here review in the New Yorker (,) the book is one great big gigantic error.

Posted by: granny-man at May 30, 2006 08:58 AM (/MkRj)

5 Seqan, you should have resolved to boldly split an infinitive where no infinitive had been split before.

Posted by: Averroes at May 30, 2006 12:09 PM (jlOCy)

6 Split infinitives don't bother me, actually: I figure English is a Germanic language, and if all the pieces of verb show up somewhere in the sentence, it's cool. Dangling participles make me crazy.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 12:38 PM (4IuF2)

7 In the first massmarket edition of Greg Bear's Blood Music our little buddies have the ability to connect to neutrons. A fact which greatly amused Greg.

Posted by: Alan Kellogg at May 30, 2006 01:10 PM (EWVGl)

8 Had a look at the review and I got to wondering. What would he have written had he actually read the thing? What if he had paid attention to what he was reading? Prime example of inordinate attention to inconsequential detail, coupled with a crippling lack of understanding regarding the concept of context.

Posted by: Alan Kellogg at May 30, 2006 01:18 PM (EWVGl)

9 I do not make light of your anguish! I know civilization, as we know it, can end at anytime with one errant comma! I don't know how you sleep at night! Editors should make those 7-and 8-digit salaries, not those CEO slackers! Acknowledging and rewarding editors, hopefully, will be the solution to all the world's exigent problems, ceteris paribus.

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 01:30 PM (KH0UR)

10 Oh, finally: someone understands how civilization can hang in the balance when one is determining whether or not a phrase should be closedup, hyphen-ated, or two separatewords.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 05:21 PM (4IuF2)

11 Oh, I do! Editors beat it into me good! A company had a policy of allowing four days billability when an employee was asked to prepare a paper for a major scientific research journal. The new head of our editing department sent around a memo stating that in the future, authors would have ONE day to write that paper, with the other THREE days alloted for typing, proofreading, and editing. If you could picture our org chart as an iceberg(always an apt reference), the part above water was mainly comprised of people with scientific and engineering degrees. The new head of editing was soon the old head of editing. Don't get me wrong: I thought it was a VERY fair allocation! At least, that's what I told the editors. Gotta watch out for those hotheads! They can fly off the handle without warning! Right now I am getting a notice from your sytem telling me that "Your(MY) comment could not be submitted due to questionable content: " Hmm... That does sound questionable!

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 07:05 PM (Aa60R)

12 I would have split the time with you, 50-50. But then, I'm nice

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 08:35 PM (4IuF2)

13 Apparently. :-) Hey! You said you don't do nice! And that's why planes will always crash, energy independence will never be achieved, we'll never have a room-temperature superconductors, and new drug will always have nasty side effects! We researchers need at least 95% of the time! It is original work and I swear I'm not goofing off...I'm THINKING!

Posted by: Darrell at May 30, 2006 09:21 PM (Aa60R)

14 Yes. I've been given to understand that my husband does that when he's lying on the bed in the middle of the afternoon, looking for all the world like he's . . . asleep. Not sleeping, though, to hear him tell it. Cogitating.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 09:53 PM (4IuF2)

15 That's right, we're cogitating. But rather than get you ladies all upset, we lie about the subject of our thoughts.

Posted by: Alan Kellogg at May 30, 2006 10:34 PM (YC3cY)

16 And yet, deep down, I know what it is. I take a deep breath and accept the fact that the man I married cannot--for more than 20 minutes--take his mind off of football.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 30, 2006 11:01 PM (4IuF2)

17 20 minutes?

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True or False

The entire world of graphic arts would be very different without the vogue LSD enjoyed in the 60s/70s/80s.

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Memorial Day Thoughts

. . . from the guy who was blending autobiography with political commentary long before the term "blog" was even coined.

Via Insty.

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May 28, 2006

She Is Maybe Nine Years Old.

She's a fan. I read a story aloud at a party last month that she liked a lot. Today Attila the Hub chatted with her mother while the girl talked to me about my writing, and her writing, and whom we each liked to read.

I realize that this is one of many times in my life I've witnessed an exchange between a precocious little girl and an adult who is just awfully dense: yes, this small person really is interested in adult things, and can be spoken to on an intellectual level.

Every other time, of course, I've seen this from the perspective of the smart little girl. Now I'm the stupid adult. Tempus fugit.

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1 Now if you can only get that little girl to make Condi run. She should have addressed her as 'Ms. President' (Madam President, for you purists). O to be a whippersnapper again!

Posted by: Darrell at May 29, 2006 03:15 AM (xf2Z4)

2 While at a recent event in DC, wearing my "Draft Condi" button attracted a fellow to tell a story about his 5 year-old daughter. She watches Cspan every morning before going to school, and he said to me, "Even I think it is an amazing thing because I don't watch it". He goes to the same church as Condi, and last year his daughter walked up to her and said, "Hey Condi, how is your friend Mr Bush?" While the father was a bit red-faced, he told me he was proud of his daughter's self-confidence in walking up to the most powerful woman in the world without fear. He also told me that Condi was so warm toward his daughter that he thinks saw her as one of the most gracious people in a long time. He also said that he is proud of his daughter who wants to grow up to be JUST LIKE CONDI. What an amazing child!

Posted by: Debbie Watson at May 29, 2006 05:13 AM (wZLWV)

3 There is something undeniably appealing about Secretary Rice.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 29, 2006 05:33 AM (4IuF2)

4 Regarding Condi as running for president, the only way it will happen is if Republicans get organized and promote her at their conventions. California just had one, and Condi came out on top with 29% of the delegates supporting her as a candidate in 2008. There is a Texas state convention coming up in June, with Condi supporters flying and driving to Texas to get delegates building momentum for Condi. All of the work is being done now to show that if Condi decides to run in 2007, there is a national groundswell in place for her. It is very exciting to be part of promoting such a historic moment, and to push toward getting Condi Rice to run. She is the most qualified person and brings intelligence and experience with her. Let's keep working to make this happen.

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May 27, 2006

Goldstein

. . . wants to know if we're having trouble with his site. I am. There are too many big words used over there.

He actually is the only human being on the planet against whom I've lodged this complaint, though I believe I brought a similar charge against Professor Purkinje when I suggested that the chemical compounds he uses in his lab have way too many syllables in their names.

If I ran the circus . . .

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1 Are you familiar with the short-lived TV series "Wonderfalls?" I've been viewing my own personal marathon this weekend and I can't help thinking of you. Although I know very little about you except what I read. And no. I don't see you talking to inanimate objects, like Jaye does. I do, however, see you slipping medication in to all the little holes on your CPU. By the way, now is a good time to purchase all the seen and unseen episodes at Amazon. The complete set for less than $20! Oh, your posting? I think some people use big words as weapons. I thought you are supposed to your audience. Technical jargon is another matter entirely: It saves a thousand words. Thanks for using the "f-word" a whole lot! You do understand us!

Posted by: Darrell at May 28, 2006 09:19 PM (j4Zun)

2 Somehow "tailor your writing to" was omitted from my comment..."I thought you were supposed to tailor your writing to your audience.". I could have sworn it was there yesterday! And I see "ego boosting" as just another use of words as a weapon. Inflating one's own ego is always done at the expense of someone else's. Words are like paint to an artist. I never like to say the same thing the exact same way.

Posted by: Darrell at May 29, 2006 02:50 AM (xf2Z4)

3 Notice how prescient the system made me look! I anticipated k's comment! Christmas in May!

Posted by: Darrell at May 29, 2006 02:54 AM (xf2Z4)

4 Perfectly valid thoughts, though I assume everyone knows I was joking . . .? Goldstein has an academic background, and has studied communication in a very clinical way. He's entitled to use the metalanguage appropriate to his discipline. I disagree that when one builds up one's own ego, one is necessarily tearing another person's down. There are people out there whose egos do need to be built up to the correct level.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 29, 2006 05:43 AM (4IuF2)

5 Me, I gear my speech to my audience, and my writing too, though to a lesser extent. The entire purpose is communication. If people don't understand the words I'm using, I'm not communicating. Of course, I'm also enamored with words and slang and the music of language in general. Plus, I figure I own this language, so I have a perfect right to mangle it as I choose. Words as weapons? See it all the time. Also, very much, as ego boosters. Such bullshit, as to both counts. People who think their big words will impress me are only impressing upon me how insecure they are - and how willing to build themselves up at the expense of others. Bah!

Posted by: k at May 29, 2006 05:57 AM (Ffvoi)

6 We, of course, didn't read Goldstein's piece, or even seriously consider your point, if any. We just wanted to interact with you and see our names in print. Isn't that why people visit blogs? It beats getting a real life! Much less work! Sort like spending your life on the Holodeck...:-)

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Bloody, But Unbowed.

And untapped.

Royce Gracie is a class act. Thirty-nine freakin' years old.

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Alexandra

. . . on the Mt. Soledad Memorial Cross issue.

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Cool

. . . Art Blog. Expecially if you're Korean, or Polish.

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May 26, 2006

I Was Going To Go Out Tonight.

Instead, I think I'll stay in and work on my writing and my weight problem.

Not necessarily in that order.

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No Such Luck.

Writer's Group didn't turn on me with pitchforks. So I suppose I shall have to finish this thing.

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May 25, 2006

Fuck Congress.

Both parties. Just fuck 'em.

Via Insty, who's not the least bit pleased with the bipartisan assertion that Representatives are above the law.

If only they made rat traps big enough for congresscritters . . .

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Were We Talking About Bob Hymers?

I guess we were. If you're curious about his church—either the Baptist Tabernacle or its predecessors—feel free to join the Hymer Warners Group (via Yahoo Groups). Members of that group are able to give you a historical perspective you may not be receiving now.

Just be very honest about the reason you're checking it out: Yahoo Group members are very sensitive about hearing "half-truths" from those they suspect of spying on behalf of R.L. Hymers. After all they've been through, I cannot blame them.

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While We're on the Subject

I'd be interested in knowing how a judge can rule that the City of San Diego cannot give a monument to the Federal Government to manage.

And, of course, why the Feds are allowed to maintain memorial crosses, but cities and counties cannot allow crosses to appear anywhere that is officially sanctioned (even itty bitty ones on the Los Angeles County Seal).

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Why Are Athiests So Thin-Skinned?

The idea of forcing the City of San Diego to tear down a cross that honors vets of the Korean War is just outrageous.

When you see a memorial cross do you think "I hope our leaders respect every drop of blood that's shed on our behalf"? Or do you think, "freedom isn't free"? Perhaps, instead, you think, "I guess the local government is attempting to endorse, sub rosa, a specific religion, violating the principle that separates church from state." If so, how freaking stupid are you? As stupid as Philip Paulson? That's pretty stupid.

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1 Well, not all atheists are thin-skinned. And I don't think Philip Paulson is necessarily thin-skinned. I think he's a complete and utter dickhead, and atheists have their fair share of those.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 26, 2006 12:21 AM (FRalS)

2 You're right: sloppy phrasing. I know plenty of athiests who are very nice--and not hypersensitive at all. I meant, of course, the media whore athiests, and I should have been clearer.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 26, 2006 09:55 AM (4IuF2)

3 Oh, we're talking about a cross? So, why are non-Atheists, non-Jews, non-Muslims, non-Jainists...well...to narrow it down, Believers-in-Christ so pig-headed and intolerant? How about replacing the cross with a star of David or some other religious symbol? When I see a Memoiral cross I DO think that the person(s) it represents are followers of Christ, otherwise it's an insult. When I buried my dad (Korean War Vet) I had the choice of symbols (if any wanted) and so chose for him the Star of David. But to have a cross represent ALL of those who've fallen in combat, though well meaning, CAN BE, and to many is, offensive. But is this yet another episode of overbearing Political Correctness (i.e. everything has to be ruled non-offensive in every way, which I hate) or Conservative Majority Status Quo (i.e. so it's religious and offensive. It's done - fait accompli, which I also hate)? In any case, LMA, you should not call us "freaking stupid" because that's personal and you don't want a personal war...

Posted by: littlemrmahatma at May 26, 2006 05:36 PM (HXU74)

4 Hey. I've already clarified that I only meant the intolerant. And MT won't let me edit the entry to change the language I used, or add an explanatory note. BTW, are you offended as an athiest, or as a Jew? If it were up to me we'd have all the best symbols in public places: lots of crosses, many many Stars of David, some crescents, a bunch of Buddhas, those cool Indian icons, and a smattering of pagan/Wiccan symbols. So, yes: I'd love to see someone build a huge star on one of the neighboring mountains in S.D. County. Heck--I'll send money.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 26, 2006 07:13 PM (4IuF2)

5 Is that a threat? I wouldn't go that that road if I were you. That'd be freakin' stupid. How about just saying it means something to the veterans that were Christians. Maybe someone with real money can buy the land--make it a private site. Bill Gates? You've taken enough of my money so I don't think I'm out of line asking you to consider it. Unless you're a weanie or something.

Posted by: Darrell at May 26, 2006 08:39 PM (oLdKY)

6 Hey, hey--no fighting. Expecially not with Mr. Mahatma, who was drawn in by my tart phrasing. It is, however, okay to bash Bill Gates, who has foisted a rather unfortunate OS on the world at large. And there are plenty of hillsides in SD County: enough for every faith to display a symbol that's visible from the developed areas. With the right fundraising in place, we won't even need Billy-Boy.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 26, 2006 11:12 PM (4IuF2)

7 I was NOT drawn in by your tart phrasing. I was drawn in by your phrasing - tart! And don't ge me started on Bill "Demonspawn" Gates. But I like the idea of building other symbols. I vote for a massive erect phallus next to a huge welcoming vagina. After all, that's what life is about.

Posted by: littlemrmahatma at May 27, 2006 09:16 AM (RyrBo)

8 I object to the empty skylines all over the country! Aren't they really monuments to atheism? And wouldn't you estimate that around 90-something% of the US Korean War fatalities were Christian. How about we just call it a monument for a time when people had sense? I object to your idea for those phallic/vaginal monuments for military cemeteries. Save those for our high schools! We can't let cell phones do everything! (There was a story about police/school officials investigating a cell phone recording of two high school students having sex in class while other students watched. An adult voice(presumably the teacher) can be heard commenting on the action--either color commmentary or play-by-play--when the transcripts are released we will know)

Posted by: Darrell at May 27, 2006 01:01 PM (ygkmt)

9 "Repeat a lie often enough and people will start to believe it" Josef Goebbels. The Mt. Soledad Cross was named a Korean War memorial by the city of San Diego after it was first ordered torn down. It was a blatant and fraudulent attempt at gaming the system. The courts refused to buy it. Calling it a war memorial is also an insult to every one who served in Korea. San Diego has consistently and persistently mishandled the whole affair so badly it's not even funny. It would be far better for my home town to state the following, "The cross on Mt. Soledad is a symbol of the city of San Diego. It represents the city and her inhabitants, regardless of religious affiliation or lack there of. If anybody sees it as purely a Christian symbol, that's their problem, net ours."

Posted by: Alan Kellogg at May 27, 2006 07:50 PM (yLa/c)

10 Hm. Retroactive War Memorial. That doesn't sound good. What year was that?

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 27, 2006 08:49 PM (4IuF2)

11 "It's a story dating back to 1913, when Pacific Beach residents built one out of redwood and erected it atop the mountain. Thieves allegedly removed it 10 years later, and its replacement, created in 1934, was felled by high winds in 1952. Soon after(1954), the Mount Soledad Memorial Association erected the current cross to commemorate soldiers of the Korean and two world wars. "http://entertainment.signonsandiego.com/profile/91675 The nonprofit Mount Soledad Memorial Association). was created in 1998, and a more elaborate Korean War Memorial built shortly thereafter. But since it was already dedicated in 1954 to those who had died in the two world wars and Korea, you would have a hard time making a case that it is all a recent scam. Hmm...Maybe one day the people will wake up and realize what "San Diego" means! Horrors!

Posted by: Darrell at May 28, 2006 06:16 AM (FKEvC)

12 of course there is this in Wikipedia--"On September 3(2005), Superior Court Judge Patricia Yin Cowett issued a temporary restraining order barring the transfer until the issue was settled. Lawyers on each side presented their arguments on October 3, 2005. A key issue was the status of the area as a secular war memorial, given the fact that it was not developed as a memorial until ten years after the first lawsuit. Prior to the law suit, no plaque or marker designated or explained the site's status as a war memorial, and during the fifty years prior to the law suit, there were no ceremonies or recognitions of the Korean War or to war veterans at the site, only Easter Sunday services. A 1985 map of the "San Diego Area" identifies the cross as the Mt. Soledad Easter Cross. [8] A court document also refers to several references of the Easter Cross including, "...the U.S. Department of Commerce Coast and Geodetic Survey (indicating "Easter Cross" on chart)."[9]" One would think that if a document could be produced with a date prior to 1985 showing the intent of the 1954 dedication, the matter could be resolved. Is CBS listening? Use a P.O. Box of 12345, please. It gives it that certain sense of authenticity. And don't forget to use plenty of superscripts!

Posted by: Darrell at May 28, 2006 06:32 AM (FKEvC)

13 I'm not impressed by the Easter Cross moniker; presumably that was the term for the first two crosses, and what locals called it. The fact that a map's fact-checker might have fallen down on the job doesn't seem like a compelling case to me.

Posted by: Attila Girl at May 29, 2006 05:56 AM (4IuF2)

14 I find it strange that the court only offers two pieces of contrary information. How many printed references would you guess might exist? Thousands?(When you consider travel brochures, city guides, homeowner association publications, permits to erect the cross, plans to build the cross, artist renderings, etc.) How about newspaper stories from the time?

Posted by: Darrell at May 29, 2006 07:47 PM (WNfaX)

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